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| Quote ="Edenmain"We should break the bank for Bellamy he has a good record of turning journey men players into solid players.'"
Noble, McLennan, Anderson...all out of a job and sat at home doing nothing, that's before we get on to the list of talented assistants in the NRL who would fancy a crack at the big time...
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"ok smart arris whats your take on that then ??
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That what you quoted is utter rubbish? To know everything you ''claim'' to,i'm guessing you are Kath's stalker.Dinner with our leader and a player???? Who would that be then?
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| Quote ="UllFC"Noble, McLennan, Anderson...all out of a job and sat at home doing nothing, that's before we get on to the list of talented assistants in the NRL who would fancy a crack at the big time...'"
It's at the point now where pretty much any change would be worthwhile, if only to create interest rather than resignation, resentment and apathy amongst the fanbase. When fans like me who'd happily do a 150 mile round trip of a Friday evening to watch O'Meley tie his shoelaces are starting to lose the will to live, that must be some sort of barometer that fans are reaching the end of their tether. Utterly fecked off ATM. Still waiting for my e-mail from the Rulester on Agar's KPIs as well.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Is this what you mean??
Morgan
2007 P: 27 W: 10 D: 0 L: 17
2008 P: 27 W: 11 D: 1 L: 15
2009 P: 27 W: 17 D: 1 L: 9
2010 P: 27 W: 14 D: 1 L: 12
2011 P: 16 W: 6 D: 0 L: 10
Total P: 124 W: 58 D: 3 L: 63 WR: 46.78%
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2008 P: 27 W: 7 D: 1 L: 19
2009 P: 27 W: 14 D: 0 L: 13
2010 P: 27 W: 11 D: 0 L: 16
2011 P: 15 W: 8 D: 1 L: 6
Total P: 96 W: 40 D: 2 L: 54 WR: 41.67%
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2008 P: 13 W: 4 D: 0 L: 9
2009 P: 27 W: 10 D: 0 L: 17
2010 P: 27 W: 16 D: 0 L: 11
2011 P: 16 W: 6 D: 1 L: 9
Total P: 83 W: 36 D: 1 L: 46 WR: 43.37%'"
Exactly what I was after.
Thank you.
So Agar and Morgan, two Coaches maxing out the Salary cap each year have marginal records over a guy who works with limited resources with very little praise from outside his own club and prefers to keep himself to himself instead of doing SKY work and TV interviews.
He may not be the best option but he could well be a better option....for either Hull club!!!!
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Exactly what I was after.
Thank you.
So Agar and Morgan, two Coaches maxing out the Salary cap each year have marginal records over a guy who works with limited resources with very little praise from outside his own club and prefers to keep himself to himself instead of doing SKY work and TV interviews.
He may not be the best option but he could well be a better option....for either Hull club!!!!'"
Are you his agent?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Seriously, any more posts like that and I'm going to use the foe function.'"
Shocking though, aren't they.
On the positive side we are on a three game unbeaten run against St Helens.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"It's at the point now where pretty much any change would be worthwhile, if only to create interest rather than resignation, resentment and apathy amongst the fanbase. When fans like me who'd happily do a 150 mile round trip of a Friday evening to watch O'Meley tie his shoelaces are starting to lose the will to live, that must be some sort of barometer that fans are reaching the end of their tether. Utterly fecked off ATM. Still waiting for my e-mail from the Rulester on Agar's KPIs as well.
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Surely you dont want Noble at FC though do you Mrs B?
He rang a mate of mine last week offering him Worrincey from Fax saying he was outstanding
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Are you his agent?
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No, I actually think he is a to55er for what he did to a player I know but you cant argue with his record and his ability.
However if he gets a job at either Hull club I will be printing this off and sending him a copy
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Exactly what I was after.
Thank you.
So Agar and Morgan, two Coaches maxing out the Salary cap each year have marginal records over a guy who works with limited resources with very little praise from outside his own club and prefers to keep himself to himself instead of doing SKY work and TV interviews.
He may not be the best option but he could well be a better option....for either Hull club!!!!'"
TBF from what i've put there i don't want any of those coaches.... None are good enough on those figures!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"TBF from what i've put there i don't want any of those coaches.... None are good enough on those figures!!'"
Like I said, if you are only spending 65-70% of the salary cap and you are up against teams like Leeds, Warrington, Saints and Wigan then his record is not bad in comparrison to two blokes who are maxing it out.
In Football, managers who managed to keep a side in the Premier League on a shoestring are raved about, why not in the case of a guy with a much weaker squad in SL?
He is making do with players that Morgan cast off such as Fozzard yet still sits in the top 8?
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"You have soon changed your tune'"
not in the slightest, I have my opinion but not changed at all as i am commenting on things i have no control over mate!!! not necassarily my opinion ,
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"That what you quoted is utter rubbish? To know everything you ''claim'' to,i'm guessing you are Kath's stalker.Dinner with our leader and a player???? Who would that be then?'"
Im her stalker your right
however its a fact wether you like it or not pallywally
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2007 P: 27 W: 15 D: 1 L: 11 Wigan
2008 P: 27 W: 13 D: 3 L: 11 Wigan
2009 P: 27 W: 15 D: 0 L: 12 Wigan
2010 P: 27 W: 12 D: 0 L: 15 Crusaders
Total P: 108 W: 55 D: 4 L: 49 Wigan WR: 53.09% Crusaders WR: 44.44% Total WR: 50.93%
Says it all for me!! May not be perfect but far better than what we've got and better than the others mentioned IMO.
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| Matterson has done a great job at Castleford with the resources at his disposal and has a proven track record of bringing youngsters through. I would like to see him at Rovers if/when Morgan leaves at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Like I said, if you are only spending 65-70% of the salary cap and you are up against teams like Leeds, Warrington, Saints and Wigan then his record is not bad in comparrison to two blokes who are maxing it out.
In Football, managers who managed to keep a side in the Premier League on a shoestring are raved about, why not in the case of a guy with a much weaker squad in SL?
He is making do with players that Morgan cast off such as Fozzard yet still sits in the top 8?'"
Noble was playing with pennies at Crusaders!!
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Surely you dont want Noble at FC though do you Mrs B?
He rang a mate of mine last week offering him Worrincey from Fax saying he was outstanding
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I'm so very bored of Agar's miserable excuse-a-thons and need some new excitement in my FC-dominated existence. I am starting to look extremely favourably on anyone that isn't him. Noble, Cullen, Millward, Murdock, Lasty...better still, let me do it. At least we'd have a decent calendar if I were in charge.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm so very bored of Agar's miserable excuse-a-thons and need some new excitement in my FC-dominated existence. I am starting to look extremely favourably on anyone that isn't him. Noble, Cullen, Millward, Murdock, Lasty...better still, let me do it. At least we'd have a decent calendar if I were in charge.'"
Not Cullen, he is one nasty human being sorry
Brian Noble is the choice IMO out of experience alone, however as noted there are many top flight coaches available doing bugger all at present thats for sure....
However for now RA is still there and we should support him till that changes mate!!
I believe the watershed for RA now is the next CC match , if that goes belly up its asta la vista IMO
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Noble was playing with pennies at Crusaders!!'"
Two things.
He wasnt playing with pennies at Wigan and his record was average at best.
At Crusaders he was getting a lot.....and I mean a lot, of help from Iestyn and Sharpy.
Given those to facts I would still rather have Matterson at my club than Nobel any day of the week.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm so very bored of Agar's miserable excuse-a-thons and need some new excitement in my FC-dominated existence. I am starting to look extremely favourably on anyone that isn't him. Noble, Cullen, Millward, Murdock, Lasty...better still, let me do it. [uAt least we'd have a decent calendar if I were in charge.[/u'"
Jobs yours MrsB
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Noble
2007 P: 27 W: 15 D: 1 L: 11 Wigan
2008 P: 27 W: 13 D: 3 L: 11 Wigan
2009 P: 27 W: 15 D: 0 L: 12 Wigan
2010 P: 27 W: 12 D: 0 L: 15 Crusaders
Total P: 108 W: 55 D: 4 L: 49 Wigan WR: 53.09% Crusaders WR: 44.44% Total WR: 50.93%
Says it all for me!! May not be perfect but far better than what we've got and better than the others mentioned IMO.'"
Ask the Wigan fans if they would have him back when McGuire leaves
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Two things.
He wasnt playing with pennies at Wigan and his record was average at best.
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However the current regime said the early sucess they had was down to the ground levelled by Nobby before they arrived... but i know what you mean
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"However the current regime said the early sucess they had was down to the ground levelled by Nobby before they arrived... but i know what you mean'"
I remember Agar saying something similar about Peter Sharp
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Anderson was due to take over at the Giants - perhaps he'd prefer not to wait another year for a top job? Surprised Hanley rarely gets a mention - not that I think you (or we, if we'd lost) would be a natural match, but he seems to have been forgotten.'"
Believe he has gone into business and involved in Union now isnt he
would have him in a flash mind, the ultimate motivator
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Ask the Wigan fans if they would have him back when McGuire leaves
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At least he won a play-off game during he tenure at Wigan.
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