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| Quote ="arliebird"are dowes and radders good enough if we really want to be a top team?'"
No they are not, simple as, that was my point, too much on O'Meleys shoulders for me,
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not exactly "light" though, are we!'"
understatement of the year so far, cmon east hull is quite right weight is not something we have an issue with and there is plently of grunt and impact off the bench in our forwards that is for sure!!
In fact given a cross the board view of the whole pack we have and reps I would say that all but three clubs would give their right arm to have our grunters.
The issue we have is simple,some of our reps in backs are a little inexperienced however you do not learn unless you get to play and guys like pearce etc will get a run out this year thats for sure.
and to say Moa, Fitz, Omeley, Radford, Pearce, Manu , Ticks, Hame and others is a light pack is well silly in my opinion
Many have missed the fact that having minimal disruption in the squad will be a godsend this year and will i am sure bare fruits for the fans as well, and one or two clubs we struggled against last year for no reason will meet a totally different FC this time around.... I for one cant wait for kick off
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| Quote ="arliebird"are dowes and radders good enough if we really want to be a top team?'"
Every team in Super league have grafters and tackle busters , in the grafting dept both are more than able and have never let us down !!, in the ideal world we would like to have 8 Gb and Oz internationals to choose from on rotation however the real world is all SL teams have grafters too
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"No they are not, simple as, that was my point, too much on O'Meleys shoulders for me,'"
so are we now saying that Fitz and Moa dont grunt enough for the team as well
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Every team in Super league have grafters and tackle busters , in the grafting dept both are more than able and have never let us down !!, in the ideal world we would like to have 8 Gb and Oz internationals to choose from on rotation however the real world is all SL teams have grafters too'"
Packs are about having the right balance between impact and workhorses, I think we have that. What we lack is some cover in the backs and some cover for 6/7/9 with this being the most important.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No he told the bloke who writes the hull fc website.'"
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| Not sure why people are worried about our pack, did well last year, only lost Cusack who was poor and replaced him with Westerman.
The pack or props isn't our problem.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Packs are about having the right balance between impact and workhorses, I think we have that. What we lack is some cover in the backs and some cover for 6/7/9 with this being the most important.'"
quite right paul, in fact we probably have as good a pack as in SL, again your correct that our reps weakness is in the backs not the pack however i think one or two of our young stallions will surprise this year !!!
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not sure why people are worried about our pack, did well last year, only lost Cusack who was poor and replaced him with Westerman..'"
you cant please all huh
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not sure why people are worried about our pack, did well last year, only lost Cusack who was poor and replaced him with Westerman.
The pack or props isn't our problem.'"
It doesn't matter if we had 4 tackle busting, offloading props, when we don't have runners (dummy and live) then they could be capable of juggling whilst whistling dixie in the front row and it would make no odds.
FC's season will, yet again, be defined by injuries to our 6 and 7.
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| Quote ="Standee"It doesn't matter if we had 4 tackle busting, offloading props, when we don't have runners (dummy and live) then they could be capable of juggling whilst whistling dixie in the front row and it would make no odds.
[uFC's season will, yet again, be defined by injuries to our 6 and 7.[/u'"
Or by any signings we make
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| What do you know bb?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Or by any signings we make
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well said, were a long way from kick off yet and much will happen
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| toatally agree about having the balance right but theres nothing wrong with replacing say radders and dowes with better players
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| Quote ="arliebird"toatally agree about having the balance right but theres nothing wrong with replacing say radders and dowes with better players'"
They went after LMS and Fielden didn't they?
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| I thought there was supposed to be a 'medium' announcement from the club today?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"They went after LMS and Fielden didn't they?'"
yeh i dont think our major problem is the props but going forward and if we are serious about being a top team then we need to be more ambitious and replace players like dowes and radders with better players
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"I thought there was supposed to be a 'medium' announcement from the club today?'"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"What do you know bb?'"
See PM...
You know me still Chasing the rumours
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Or by any signings we make
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Not so sure anyone will come before the season starts.
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"I thought there was supposed to be a 'medium' announcement from the club today?'"
Was the Tansey piece in the HDM, another page filler nothing story.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Not so sure anyone will come before the season starts.'"
Who knows...maybe building up to it for a final push on season pass sales and all that
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| Quote ="Standee"It doesn't matter if we had 4 tackle busting, offloading props, when we don't have runners (dummy and live) then they could be capable of juggling whilst whistling dixie in the front row and it would make no odds.
FC's season will, yet again, be defined by injuries to our 6 and 7.'"
Agree totally, just not sure why people are saying that our props aren't good enough, least of our problems, moan about the backs and HB's.
I would hope that if we make no halfback signings that Nicklas is given 80 minutes at halfback in both friendlies.
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| Quote ="arliebird"yeh i dont think our major problem is the props but going forward and if we are serious about being a top team then we need to be more ambitious and replace players like dowes and radders with better players'"
Until you are established as a team that are regularly winning trophies, the cap makes it a difficult proposition. You might be tempted to chuck Warrington at me and tbh I'd have to shrug and agree. Ignoring their precedent, developing your own players and having kids punching above their wage is the way to go. We don't have that yet and your production line seems to have stuttered slightly. Hull and Rovers are capable of winning a trophy (probably the CCup) with a fair wind, if they peak at the right moment. To do what Bradford and Saints, and then Leeds have done and what Wigan have maybe now started, it needs to be bottom up, IMO.
I don't think you lack ambition in the transfer market - I'm not even sure you lack success. It is a very competitive market is all.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Agree totally, just not sure why people are saying that our props aren't good enough, least of our problems, moan about the backs and HB's.
I would hope that if we make no halfback signings that Nicklas is given 80 minutes at halfback in both friendlies.'"
Think he will as RH wont be playing for a while,
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