think the point that some are missing on here is that im not saying i would dismiss him now. I defo would if he was found guilty. My point has been that we could still legally sack him if we wanted to. Fwiw i would speak to him and get his facts, find out what his plea will be and take legal advice on the likelihood of his guilt or not to make an immediate call

I too would dismiss him if he was found guilty (or pleaded guilty).

Where we disagree is whether the club can legally dismiss him now.

I doubt his solicitor would advise him to say much to the club while the prosecution is still ongoing.

As his employer he needs to when requested.

Quite. I wasn't suggesting that you were one of those people. I just liked the turn of phrase.

When is Raynor's contract up, as I certainly wouldn't renew after this episode, even if he's found not guilty. He should have been sacked after his first court case.

end of next season.

But its not just some accusation is it.
The CPS have investigated and decide they have enough evidence to charge and possibly get a conviction.

CPS prosecute lots of cases that they lose. There is a strange custom in this country and that is innocent UNTIL proven guilty.

More likely they are letting it run a bit longer, hoping to cop a plea



They will look very closely at it nearer the event and if they can not 95% sure of conviction they will pull it. I think its a great shame that magistrates courts can't deal with a lot more, opting for trial by jury does give some people a great chance of walking away scott free.

Raynor due up again, very soon.

Something different this time

And with that, it's probably overdue that one of the mods close this conduit for innuendoe and conjecture.

Well done

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why whats airlie going to do to him?



dont worry the taxi is on its way

Its a shame there wasn't 2 "Thacks in court" threads this season then

Baroness Scotland, the country's most senior lawyer found guilty, but does not resign, is not fired, keeps her job!! Criminal record means nothing in this country nowadays.

I must have missed her arrest, prosecution, trial, and conviction. When did all that happen?

As you are well aware,this didn't happen cos there's too much of it happening and the courts and jails are too full.So these Asbo style punishments are just dished out

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The two points are mutually exclusive.

Who said I was indicating she had a criminal record?

Methinks you jump to conclusions that are not indicated in the post but are only in your fuddled, cantankerous head.

Or possibly your post was less clear than you think.

You could be right. Maybe it is that I should have used a form of language that would have been understood by the lowest common denominator, but then I may have been accused of dumbing down the discussion.







Well, now you can spend time from your life looking for an opportunity to "catch me out" making a mistake on any subsequent posts I make. (If I make any). Enjoy.

She was not prosecuted but was given a "civil penalty".

A civil penalty is a wheeze thought up by the government to get money out of its citizens without giving them a fair trial. Basically its a tax.

So she hasn't been convicted of anything.

Having said that she broke the law and as the government's most senior law officer you would have thought she should resign or have been sacked.

But of course the rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply to politicians do they?

It's like a fixed penalty traffic offence. Presumably they're taxes too.

And FWIW, it's typical of a politician to break the law and come out and say they've effectively done nothing wrong. She's breached the law of the land and I fully expect the same treatment for a curry house employing an illegal worker that she received, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

No need to become paranoid

Actually a fixed penalty for a traffic offence (except parking) is criminal not civil.

Civil penalities are a means of raising revenue. In effect the government is saying "Give us some money and we won't prosecute you and you won't get a criminal record."

Prosecuting people through the courts on the other hand is expensive and costs the government money.

Even worse some of the pesky blighters get off due to technicalities, such as being innocent.