You know you want to.

Correct

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But no one wants to... so your stuck with it

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all talk on here mate your right.

Robbo is the only one with owt up top,just dont get the brother involved

That’s pretty much the way I see it also. To have any chance of having an open dialogue and forming a relationship with the club, the group must be seen to want to make a positive contribution to the club, and not just get rid of the board/coach. If people turn up to Charleston in a couple of weeks with the sole intention of only joining the group to get rid of Kath, Rule and Agar then we are wasting everyone’s time.

The Black and White association has been raising money for youth development, providing equipment and also sponsorship for years. In the past, they have had an excellent relationship with the club, but I am led to believe that it is not so strong right now. That in part could be due to the fact that members (not the committee) are losing interest and people may not be renewing their membership. I wonder that rather than starting a new group from scratch, if their would be any mileage in approaching the B&WA and seeing if they would welcome new members and maybe change tact a little bit and organise regular open meetings with all it’s members. I know most of the committee members personally and would be happy to approach them if people feel that this could be the way forward.

That was an idea I had a few years ago mate and spoke to the late Albert about and a very good one i believe. Both associations coming together would bring almost the whole compliment to the table.

So you think it is something to chase up?

As I say I would be happy to do this as I know several of the most of the committee members.

Under the new regime the BnW's have been pushed out to an extent and not concentrate on sponsoring the young players at the club. At one time they were a valued organisation but it seems the people running Hull now don't see them as particularly important now, which is a shame.

Good idea id say

It is a real shame. They've been an integral part of the club since before the current lot took over and ought to be respected as such.

Perhaps a big boost in their numbers, and with it the money they are able to raise for the club, would see them given more of a voice?

They still raise loads of money and are a major supporter of our young players who rely on the B&W's for quite a lot.

The fact is the club don't seem to want to acknowledge any group, lets face it FC Voices is not worth a w**k. They ask questions but never get answers on the day, it's a sham and I not sure a new group would change any of that tbh.

Think the B&W paid for Swainy to come over for the cup final at the clubs request

But, if their membership was to increase significantly again, then maybe the club would recognise them again.

The Black and whites already seem to have in place what a lot of us on here are looking for. With an increased membership and maybe a willingness to liten to members, this could be the perfect platform to spark up a new, more positive relationship with the club. With lot's of new members and more £££'s coming in, an approach from the black on whites about providing training equipment at the Boulevard would surely see the board listen.

That's correct.

I don't think the disabled supporters who have got additional car parking spaces this year through myself and FC Voices would agree, but hey ho,I and all the disabled supporters are not worth a w**k



(don't mean to go on about disabled supporters but this is my representation in the group)

No disrespect intended but i think you will find that you particular area ie disability is quite a big stick with which to hit the club. Even Hull are not blinkered enough to upset any disabled person as the negative publicity can be very damageing.

As in any situation like this represntative (or unrepresentative) bodies are always toothless.

The only way anything like this could ever work in the future would be if an agreement were to be sought between the club and the groups for firstly them to be acknowledged and secondly them to not be censored for fear of being banned like Humberside etc.

Our club only seems to want to know the rosey positives and then the negatives dont/arent allowed to even be mentioned.

Rule is running a very dangerous line for me linking himself so closely to Agar etc, if the board see the gates drop and season passes fall next year Rule may be with Agar out of the door.

Does anyone know how you join the B&W's, do they even want more members, would they welcome some new blood?

There is a form that needs to be filled in and a fee (can't remember how much). The form could do to be more readily available imo and I am sure that they would always welcome more new blood.

As I say, I feel that recruiting new people to the black and whites is a better idea then starting someting from scratch.

i think it used to be a fiver a month, something ive never got round to joining myself but more than willing too.

Combine this and the fans group together to being a new Black and Whites Supporters Trust

Supporters of Hull Independent Trust.

Oh wait...

I'm interested in joining, but only if it doesn't have an "old guard" that make all the decisions along their own opinions etc.

No worries. Are you coming over for the game tonight? if so pop over and have a word and I'll tell you what I know about the organisation.

They could be going through a bit of a transition period with committee members at the moment, but they certainly are not "old guard" and very much have the clubs best interests at heart.

Imight be interested Jamie,doubt that I would be welcome by the club tho......!!

You could become a member without having to give your identity away. That way you can remain a faceless keyboard warrior







but with the added bonus of feeling that you are making a positive contribution to youth development etc