The fact you make such a statement just proves how much of an idiot you are


You dont need to be a pro player, past or present, to give your opinions on players performances. Otherwise there would be no forum

I agree, the only time we seem to have shown a lack of effort was in the Salford CC game, with the exception of Saints away all our games have been tight.

Tell you what, you play on Tuesday night. Oh no sorry I almost forgot you're a keyboard warrior with no intention of getting bashed about for other peoples entertainment. Like I said, they are giving it 100% it's just that they are not good enough.

We even managed 16 points in the second half at Saints against there 20...

I appreciate your position financially, and I also understand your want to go watch the football, but to drop Hull Fc as quick as you picked them up, that I don't understand. A fan is a fan, you're supposed to support, not leave because things aren't going too well.

Rubbish, these guys get PAID.

If the level of effort is enough for you then that is fine, I do not think all of the players are putting in 100% in every game.

Never said you did, but to come on here slating a players effort is a joke, especially when you say you'd go watch Leeds Utd instead if they were playing at an higher level.

I get paid too but it doesn't mean I'd like to be bashed about and then get slated for it because even when I carried on doing my job even though I was in pain some no mark who wouldn't dare do my job thought I couldn't be bothered.

Utter garbage.

Thanks for saving me the edit, you've just summed up most of your posts pretty well.

I know its hard for a lot of people to attend sport matches as its expensive but you morealess said in the other bit you wont go watch Leeds while there in league 1 but you are willing to pay £25 to watch them if they ever get promoted to the Championship, seems a bit fickle to me, you should be willing to support them whatever league theyre in

Have to agree.

As i tried raising previously a number of players are on flat salaries regardless of results, all they have to do is show up.

All players should be on performance related pay of some discription, I would guarantee an upturn in form.

Now then Rich

It has always annoyed me, and so many of my fellow fans, when you get the "you go out there and do better then" comment, I don't profess to be a professional RL players so why the hell do I need to prove myself.

Would the same people be happy if they went to a restaurant for a meal and it was poor, but the chef came out and said "go on then, you cook something better", the answer is no.

If you get paid to do a job then, yes, you get paid to do it to the best of your ability and with maximum effort and application, if you genuinely are not talented/skilled then that is not your fault, so long as the effort is there, too many FC players, as you say, simply turn up and go through the motions, which upsets the other players around them giving their all every week.

There is no coincidence that the dedicated and professional players at FC change on a rotational basis, the lacklusture nucleus remains largely intact.

I am in absolute agreement with TKOAH here, I just can't understand this "lack of effort" kind of comment, you can see the players are trying hard it's just that they are not that good. Yet so many people think they should be world beaters. It just isn't going to happen with this team of players. And the way some people talk you'd think we were bottom of the league, not 7th!

And Key, no-one is forcing you to go to all the away games in 4 different countries. Why do you think 90% of supporters only go to home games? Maybe just pick and choose a few games a season that appeal to you? I don't understand the knee-jerk over-reaction (not just by you, but by a lot of people on here).

Does anyone care to name the players not giving 100% each week because I have not noticed which ones it is?

I have noticed some players have good/bad games but no one player who seems to be not trying.

That's a pretty bold statement given the number of players we have out injured and our lack of quality.

Could you name those players who, in your opinion, are failing to put in the required effort?

Not really, even if 2-3 players up the ante we would see an improvement, and there is no greater carrot than cash.

Simply not true.

cba

Why?

Because cash is not always the primary motivator for performance.

Why play pro-rugby then, and even better why not play for free?

There's a difference between money not being the primary motivator and it not being a motivator at all. Everyone needs to earn a living after all.

Different people have different motivations. Not everyone is driven by the need to earn as much cash as possible once they are comfortably off. There's no doubt that paying winning money might motivate some players, but for others it might be something less tangible that drives them.