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| Quote ="Kosh"There's an awful lot of revisionism going on.'"
i think a lot of people have had a reality check after "bel13ve" and all the hype around the average squad of players we have and we need to make major changes to the squad yet again!!!! we will get nowhere near the top 6 in the next few years we are going backwards in terms of quality on the pitch but if we make changes we are going to have to except another 2 or 3 years of transition and a lot more losses £££ for Mr Pearson who will eventually get fed up
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| Quote ="Goochie"You joking? Andy Lynch hasn't impressed you and isn't up to Super League level? He was in our top 3 performers all last season, playing with a broken wrist ALL SEASON, and he isn't up to Super League standard.
I can't be bothered to reply to the rest of your post, because quite frankly with your comments on Lynch you're talking out your booty.'"
sorry mate forgot to put last year how good he was and how much of a leader he was im talking about how he has gone backwards this year he looks like hes fed up tbh and no other sl team would touch him on form this year
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| Why did it take us 65 mins to start playing, motivation?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why did it take us 65 mins to start playing, motivation?'"
I would say (being cynical) that PGs pre match talk was something along the lines of don't worry chaps in these conditions I will be pleased with a draw. After 65 mins he realised that defeat would leave him in the brown stuff with AP.
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| Quote ="ZACH"I would say (being cynical) that PGs pre match talk was something along the lines of don't worry chaps in these conditions I will be pleased with a draw. After 65 mins he realised that defeat would leave him in the brown stuff with AP.'"
Oh FFS.
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"i think a lot of people have had a reality check after "bel13ve" and all the hype around the average squad of players we have and we need to make major changes to the squad yet again!!!! we will get nowhere near the top 6 in the next few years we are going backwards in terms of quality on the pitch but if we make changes we are going to have to except another 2 or 3 years of transition and a lot more losses £££ for Mr Pearson who will eventually get fed up'"
We don't need major changes to the squad. We need a scrum half, a big prop, and maybe a centre.
People are overreacting.
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| After PG dropped Seymour (wrongly imo) after the first game of the season I did forewarn we would be up creek without a paddle if anything happened to DJ.
We are paddleless!
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| Quote ="number 6"relieved to get the draw in the end but far from happy with the peformance! the conditions made the game a leveller and tony rea must've thought all his christmas' had come at once with the weather today! credit to london they played wet weather rugby unlike us!
if holdsworth is going to be missing, we must have whiting at 6 as he is the only one with a rugby brain, heremaia is not the answer, he and briscoe,(who will never make a full back!) cost us the tries in the first half!'"
We played 'wet weather rugby' for about 70 mins
Must admit I thought Whiting made the difference for you in the 2nd half, really gave your team a shot in the arm, seems to always do well against us.
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| Quote ="Kosh"We don't need major changes to the squad. We need a scrum half, a big prop, and maybe a centre.
People are overreacting.'"
what im saying is next year we will see alot of major changes to the 17 the likes of tickle briscoe omeley seymour galea and any other player we have ooc or were getting rid of will need replacing with quality to make us better then we are!!
yes the younger lads will be in 17 more next year green bowden kent etc
but they are still young lads and not ready to replace the players leaving yet IMO
we need a class 7 thats the 1st thing we need
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a massive prop and maybe another prop aswel
and we will need a couple more squad players to provide good cover for injuries
that for me is major squad changes which will only mean they take time to gel again and its another transitional period
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"what im saying is next year we will see alot of major changes to the 17 the likes of tickle briscoe omeley seymour galea and any other player we have ooc or were getting rid of will need replacing with quality to make us better then we are!!
yes the younger lads will be in 17 more next year green bowden kent etc
but they are still young lads and not ready to replace the players leaving yet IMO
we need a class 7 thats the 1st thing we need
a top centre
a massive prop and maybe another prop aswel
and we will need a couple more squad players to provide good cover for injuries
that for me is major squad changes which will only mean they take time to gel again and its another transitional period'"
In his recent interview Pearson said there wouldn't be major changes to the squad next year.
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| Quote ="Kosh"In his recent interview Pearson said there wouldn't be major changes to the squad next year.'"
There doesn't need to be major changes. Half back with Seymour's money (presuming he will be released), prop to replace ogre, 2nd row to replace Tickle/Galea. 3-4 signings max. We NEED consistency, which is why Gentle and AP have been giving longer contracts than we previously have been.
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| Quote ="Kosh"In his recent interview Pearson said there wouldn't be major changes to the squad next year.'"
i know mate i just hope they get recruitment right for next season we need to fill a few gaps so they will have to be at least 4 new signings and by major i mean the quality we pick needs to be top 4 not peoples cast offs
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| Quote ="Kosh"In his recent interview Pearson said there wouldn't be major changes to the squad next year.'"
Pearson has said a number of things that haven't quite worked out as he planned. His word isn't quite as gospel as some would BEL13VE!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Pearson has said a number of things that haven't quite worked out as he planned. His word isn't quite as gospel as some would BEL13VE!'"
I suppose the only comfort is that he made some mistakes early on at City (sacking Brian Little, spending loads of money on average players and hiring and firing Jan Molby) but then found the winning formula that got them 2 promotions. We can only wait and see if he can repeat that in RL.
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| Hull City were in the championship when Pearson was responsible for the Phil Parkinson debacle.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Pearson has said a number of things that haven't quite worked out as he planned. His word isn't quite as gospel as some would BEL13VE!'"
Fair point. Maybe I should say that no major changes in the squad were [iplanned[/i at the time he gave the interview.
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| Quote ="looking in"Hull City were in the championship when Pearson was responsible for the Phil Parkinson debacle.'"
And also when Phil Brown was brought in.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Oh FFS.
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Well FFS have you seen his post match comments.
I said it with a degree of tongue in cheekness but Christ PGs comments are IMHO defeatist. It's rugby in England but all he worried about was the conditions. If he doesn't adjust that attitude over the coming month we are screwed. There is to be no let up in this weather any time soon.
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| Quote ="ZACH"Well FFS have you seen his post match comments.
I said it with a degree of tongue in cheekness but Christ PGs comments are IMHO defeatist. It's rugby in England but all he worried about was the conditions. If he doesn't adjust that attitude over the coming month we are screwed. There is to be no let up in this weather any time soon.'"
Good chance of snow/sleat for the derby!
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| Quote ="ZACH"Well FFS have you seen his post match comments.
I said it with a degree of tongue in cheekness but Christ PGs comments are IMHO defeatist. It's rugby in England but all he worried about was the conditions. If he doesn't adjust that attitude over the coming month we are screwed. There is to be no let up in this weather any time soon.'"
You need to go back and read it again, because you seem to have read a completely different set of comments to the ones I read.
Honestly, how anyone can come out with nonsense like this beggars belief.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You need to go back and read it again, because you seem to have read a completely different set of comments to the ones I read.
Honestly, how anyone can come out with nonsense like this beggars belief.'"
If you'd have offered a draw before the game we'd have taken it. That comment can be interpreted how you have taken it or how I have taken it. Now as we supposedly have ambition to say that when playing against the basement team is IMHO defeatist. It will hardly inspire a team to victory. That is the exact line on the official site. So I am taking that as gospel.
Now as we often say on here its a matter of opinions and we seem to differ. Having forked out to go yesterday to know that they were happy with a draw due to injuries and conditions really makes me question what the faithful were doing there yesterday.
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| Quote ="ZACH"If you'd have offered a draw before the game we'd have taken it. That comment can be interpreted how you have taken it or how I have taken it. Now as we supposedly have ambition to say that when playing against the basement team is IMHO defeatist. It will hardly inspire a team to victory. That is the exact line on the official site. So I am taking that as gospel.
Now as we often say on here its a matter of opinions and we seem to differ. Having forked out to go yesterday to know that they were happy with a draw due to injuries and conditions really makes me question what the faithful were doing there yesterday.'"
Selective quoting works wonders, doesn't it? How about we look at what Gentle [iactually[/i said...
Quote If you had offered a draw to me before the game, I’d have taken it when looking at that pitch. '"
I've highlighted the bit you let out that totally changes the tone of the quote. It's clear that what he's talking about is the state of the pitch - i.e. waterlogged and barely fit to play on - rather than the weather. It's also clear that he'd have taken a point because on a pitch like that you could easily play well and still lose. It turns games into a bit of a lottery.
It was a throwaway line in an interview and it speaks volumes about how much drama queenage is going on right now that it was ever deemed worthy of a comment, let alone offered up as 'proof' of our lack of ambition.
Deary me.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Selective quoting works wonders, doesn't it? How about we look at what Gentle [iactually[/i said...
I've highlighted the bit you let out that totally changes the tone of the quote. It's clear that what he's talking about is the state of the pitch - i.e. waterlogged and barely fit to play on - rather than the weather. It's also clear that he'd have taken a point because on a pitch like that you could easily play well and still lose. It turns games into a bit of a lottery.
It was a throwaway line in an interview and it speaks volumes about how much drama queenage is going on right now that it was ever deemed worthy of a comment, let alone offered up as 'proof' of our lack of ambition.
Deary me.
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It was waterlogged due to the weather.
As for drama queenage. Well it's now getting to the stage were talk is very cheap. I personally have started to have a gut full. The official line was "injury hit Hull..." Now when have we heard that before? We carry on at times as if we are the only ones with injuries. We also had quotes before the season about our strength across the park and in depth. Well to quote you FFS we have four injured and its a crisis and we have little depth.
Now if me and a good few others have started to act like drama queens I strongly feel we have good reason. The club has failed to sell the targeted number of season passes and will have to review their targets down as things stand as it's not getting any better. Some who aren't such drama queens IMO need a dose of reality. Ifs buts and maybes don't wash on the park. Actions speak louder than words and right now those decisive actions are missing.
did Tony Rea and the London faithful say they would have taken a point at 14;55 yesterday? No they are moaning about a point dropped. Says it all really.
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| Quote ="ZACH"It was waterlogged due to the weather.'"
So it would have been OK for him to complain about pitch conditions that [iweren't [/icaused by the weather? Jeezus wept. Are you really that desperate to have a pop? Haven't we got enough [iactual [/iproblems for you, so that you need to invent another?
Quote ="ZACH"did Tony Rea and the London faithful say they would have taken a point at 14;55 yesterday?'"
I have no idea. Did you ask him at 14:55 yesterday? What kind of daft question is that?
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| Quote ="Kosh"So it would have been OK for him to complain about pitch conditions that [iweren't [/icaused by the weather? Jeezus wept. Are you really that desperate to have a pop? Haven't we got enough [iactual [/iproblems for you, so that you need to invent another?
I have no idea. Did you ask him at 14:55 yesterday? What kind of daft question is that?'"
I would say we will agree to differ but you ery isn't worth it.
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