Totally agree.

Radford isn't the complete clueless idiot I thought he was, probably around this time last year. Our defence is decent and he's getting an awful lot of effort out of the lads. We make good yards and regularly get the better of the field position to kill teams off.

Unfortunately, as far as our attack goes, he is a clueless idiot. I'd like to see someone brought in on the coaching staff specifically to work with the attack. I'd also like to see our players be a little bit smarter too.

You see Bumpy, it's things like this which make it pretty difficult for people to care about your opinion. If your arguments aren't balanced, nobody will give a damn.

You're looking at players out for both teams, yet only mention four for Hull FC as they "should be in the 17 by rights". That game we had seven out; Sneyd, Ellis, Watts, Yeaman, Sa, Whiting & Green out. The same number as Saints.

In the Saints game it wasn't so much the players they had out as the turnaround.

We played in a fairly slow, dour game on Thursday. They played in a brutal game on the Friday. When you are backing up so quickly that extra day is a big factor. It's not a case of making up excuses why we won, it's being realistic. It's a game we should have won, and we did. So whilst it's a tick in the box it's nothing to crow about. The same goes for Widnes and Sheffield.

If we beat Huddersfield and Salford and start to show a bit more creative threat, then I will give some credit. At the moment we have scraped some results but shown no sign of our performances improving. I hope I'm wrong but I think Hudderfield's defence will be too organised for us and we'll lose yet another tight low scoring game. Even if Sneyd is back I just don't see where our points are coming from.

We desperately desperately need somebody to come in and sort our (lack of) attack out.

Look at the tries we score - intercepts from the flying pig and barges over from short range. Just occasionally we will get a great solo effort (Rankin and Shaul i'm looking at you) but how often do we see a breathtaking team move with lots of pairs of fast hands and dummy runners?

And why oh why (like yesterday) do we persevere with a chip on the last tackle to what looks like the best catcher on the field? The one who also has a great step and makes yards and yards on their return?

Agree with the above, Surely Radford and AP can see what we are seeing, I don't think we are far away from being a really good side and a couple of improvements to our basic play would make a massive difference. It would really benefit Radford if he brought someone in to help him keep his job. There must be plenty of people that would come here from England or the NRL who could improve our attack.

Watching the Leigh game on Saturday, I was really jealous of their attaching structures and plays.

Spot on Dave.

The attack coach should've been in situ pre-season, I did hear we approached Cooke & Monaghan, but both failed to materialise....

The likes of Wigan,Saints,Warrington & Huddersfield & Castleford have Deacon,Long,Briers,Thorman,Orr & Sheridan, as ex HB's, as their Attack coaches.

At this time of the season, it would be not easy to appoint anyone,
however (not everyone's cup of tea) I have seen Bobbie Goulding would be willing to coach our attack, he said "Basically, its a lot of repetitive catch & pass drills, but importantly it has to be coached under duress and at speed"

Hutchie also indicated Radford/Last, removed the idea of Gentle, who trained the players under duress in attack, this is why we are getting closed down so quickly.

Our defence is pretty solid, with a different approach in attack preperation,we could go a long way this season..

Radders has got the players giving their all every game. In defence despite at times looking disorganised they scramble and are desperate to keep teams out. Our on the line defence is at times amazing but it has to be because we get busted by the better teams further up field. It's a wonder they have any energy left at times. When fatigue does kick in then we're vulnerable and players make mistakes. As others have said maybe we'll start to get some organisation and cohesion in place but why that should suddenly happen is difficult to see unless something changes in the coaching methods or personnel.

IF we stretched the opposition in defence more, i.e the opposition
would be more fatigued, but if we persevere with one man barges,
the opposition would be less fatigued,& their confidence would increase
due to a lack of pressure.

It's telling that although you credit the team/coach on the decent defence you put it down to luck,and when we score against good sides it's also down to luck.

could not agree with your comments more
The problem is if you have a despot in charge that guards everything so steadfastly as it seems that situation will not even be a passing thought, because LR would see that as an admission of failure not and admission of all help is welcome help as it should be, any organization or business worth its weight in salt should always be looking for the "next big thing" who can pop up and help its admin, or streamline its output but lee simply is not the transparent type is he, he hides his cards carefully so we can forget additional help , I hope i am wrong but so far we have had no suggestion that anyone is even being considered apart from rumour..
I would love to get Cooke or similar on the team and cream his knowledge and experience but it simply isnt going to happen ...
150 years of history celebrations looking decidedly average

we lack creativity and that is sad given the players we have in the squad, you know its bad when Yeaman is noted as a ball player ha ha
Only kidding of course but we do need someone to step up and start pushing us around the pitch again ala Hudds first game but we just seem to be a team living on apathy and that old FC "let someone else do it" attitude again
we have class all over the team but no glue to pull that fabric together , were 1 yard away from being a really good side,

We did that against Rovers time and again. A stupid chip over, straight to Manky-tomato or Kelly. Never worked once.

Rankin might be a good fullback, but he's a dreadful halfback. I've said it before, but if he's got one eye on going home, I see no point in him being part of future plans. I'd start putting HTW or Reece Dean on the fast-track.

i know what you mean but just because he is going we cant dismiss the fact he is a super player in broken play and we need all the speed we can muster right now

So, we keep him in until he goes, at the expense of a young, keen halfback who actually is playing in that position every week?

When Rankin then leaves, we suddenly realise, "Oh, fsck! We haven't got anyone ready!"

No of course not clearly i am not saying that but surely you can see that whilst he is here is a valid part of the current squad, and very much putting his hand up to play, whilst he is in the squad, at the club and taking up valid cap space does that not qualify him to actually play ???

and may i say play to a high standard presently

Back in the UK again so soon?

No actually sat on my terrace overlooking Stroboli enjoying the sun and having lunch as we speak, trying to decide between us whether to go to the beach or just jump in the pool to be honest??

and lee radford thinks he has problems eh ?? ha ha ha

I cant believe people would want cooke back,is it because he is doing such a good job with donny,averaging 12 pts a game,played 9 lost 9 ?Sounds like just what we need,apart from what he did to us.

I would have Schofield here if i thought he could help mate

That's not what I said, re-read EXACTLY what I said, when I used the word 'luckily' that isn't the same as 'lucky', if you can't differentiate between them well that isn't my fault is it but I'll explain it ok?

How about I use the words 'fortunately for us' we have a pretty good defence, or 'good job' we have a pretty good defence, in the context of what I said the word 'luckily' represents 'where it not for', that I added a (genuine) congratulatory note to re-inforce that made it pretty obvious what was being said, you chose not to see it that way or just didn't understand.

Additionally I didn't say it was ALL down to luck scoring against decent sides as you are infering, please, re-read that aspect of my post again. You will note I said "just don't look capable of scoring against well organised defences that often unless a bit of luck comes our way.
Again, read the sentence, analyse what it ACTUALLY says, take the hints from the words in bold, if you need me to explain it in full just ask and I will do so but what I said is the actuality of what has happened. We have the second lowest scoring tally in the league [ijust[/i ahead of Wakefield, we have the 2nd lowest tally against us. I'd say that in itself is a good indicator of what I said if nothing else.

If you want me to give you some examples of where our tries involved 'a bit of luck' but not wholly & when we scored off the back of some individual brilliance or good team work I'll run through them but if you also read my post about Lineham's tries against Widnes I pointed out to another FC forummer that tried to say I'd said one thing and not what I actually did that I was agreeing with the commentators on SKY that said it took skill/knowhow and guts for him to get them.
I can objectively look at what we as a team are doing, it would seem you cannot do the same as many others on here fail to do so also.

Yes let's bring in a coach(Cooke) who has guided the current team he is coaching to a grand total of 0 wins from 9,FFS.

You must have a very long cable on your router.

On Cooke, remember this isn't about him being head coach, but attacking coach, our attack was the best in years when he played at halfback for us. I'm not saying that he should be appointed attacking coach, but he shouldn't be judged on him being head coach at Donny (where he did a great job last year, but not this*) for a attacking coaching job.

*If you read the Donny forum, there are a few valid reason why they aren't doing aswell this year as last.

He's recently hung up his playing boots.

Lunch at 4pm too after an 8 day trip to Manly to read about Hull KR. Jet-set.

They are averaging 12 pts a game in the championship,sounds perfect for us.