I would like to post my third entry based on how i see the game now, could go on and on been a hull fc lad all my life and all that passionate stuff,but find today embarrasing for the fans of our great club, but all banter aside between clubs and rival fans. and a special message to the media. If you are so informed and like making the headlines start to think outside the box try to look at the last 10 years of super league we all see the physical differences in all sports of atheletes especially succesful teams we all say they look miles bigger than us but our initial thoughts are quickly forgotten once the game kicks off and finished. Without been slanderous look at individuals in our game and ask how they still perform at the highest at the age of 30 plus i am sure a few players fall into this category. Terry newton rip talked about the problems he had personally and in the game as he perceived them to brian carney i believe its a major problem in our game that requires sorting out and is just a matter of time. I look at the last 10 years and try to build which teams/players have been succesful and who has been in charge of the team and provided support ie the conditioners like were did cooper come from who did he work with prior to his arrival at hull. I think we all agree that its a much bigger problem than this instance and from a rugby league point of view we all need to playing on a "level" playing field. Please post your thoughts understand if you feel i am talking tosh but these are my beliefs that i hope people like mr gwillem lloyd would look at instead of having a cheap pop at the black and whites that is no good for rugby especially in this great rugby city, time to consider retirement lloyd and to leave it to a young indipendent news reporter to carry out an honest days work.

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Thats a first RL in the Post

someone has got a nice little pay off from the sale of the club.........for taking the wrap and the heat off others.....no names mentioned of course

All i ask is take the blinkers off needs good shake up even the sky commentators. Love the game not just my club

No shock in the story, been doing the rounds for some time. Very sad to see the club being dragged through the mud like this however what gives me hope and consolation is we have a new regime now and hopefully this is the last gift from the last lot.

Also interesting to see the club mention KH when UKDA never.

No and he has no real desire too either.

made the papers in sydney www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1per1.html

made the papers in sydney www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1per1.html

Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/

Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" "Other players are also said to have taken the supplement but only Gleeson was dope tested." Could be interesting times ahead if Gleeson decides to take this further. One thing is for certain, Ben Cooper will struggle to get a job in our game again.

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" "Other players are also said to have taken the supplement but only Gleeson was dope tested." Could be interesting times ahead if Gleeson decides to take this further. One thing is for certain, Ben Cooper will struggle to get a job in our game again.

You've been around telling things how they are much more than me, but I can't deny I'm feeling pretty satisfied too. This level of vindication could never have been expected. Especially when coupled with, a few weeks back, Pearson saying he had conclusive evidence that Agar had conspired to shaft us out of Luke Briscoe, making instant mugs out of all those who used to come on here and tell us what a decent, honest bloke 'Rich' was.



What is a bit disappointing though is, given the number of people who used to queue up to praise JR, how few of them seem to be willing now to hold their hands up and say 'I got it wrong'. Poor form indeed...

I'll admit, I thought that Rule was sometimes decent.
I didn't like the lack of ambition that the club has seemed to have over the past few seasons, however the club was one of the few around that could balance its books and we had a grade A licence so it appeared to me that whilst we weren't performing on the pitch, behind the scenes the club was doing well, which therefore painted Rule in a good light as he was the CEO.
So yes, in some aspects I thought that Rule had been decent, and it's now turned out that things weren't as rosy as I'd thought.

Oh, please



They could always do what you do when proved wrong and disappear for a few months.

If you hadn't noticed, there hasn't been any rugby played for several months now, once the excitement of the new regime taking over was out of the way, there was very little of interest to post about (unless you're interested in the hunks thread). You can't seriously claim to be surprised that more people post on the forum when something has actually happened?

Speaking of those who post year-round though, since I joined this forum, I've been often ridiculed and criticised for how much I tore into Rule and Agar. Now it turns out that I was spot on, while large numbers of supposedly more 'respected' posters have been made to look like berks.

When so many have been embarrassed, it's not going to wash trying to turn this into a conversation about the frequency of my posts. As I said to Wilf, there's far more dignity in a simple retraction....

Oh, get a grip and over yourself. Despite your single minded obsession even you have to admit being CEO of a sports club is multi-faceted.

Let's put this into context. What emerged yesterday didn't change my opinion of Rule's intentions with regard to his duty to the club. I'm certain that this massive error wasn't made with the specific intention to royally shaft us. Rather the opposite, despite his decision being misguided to such an extent it's ruined his career.

You're trying to paint a picture of a man incompetent in all areas and with purely evil intentions. Like saying a teacher is unable to teach because she gives out the wrong text books one day or the delivery man is an incompetent driver because he hands over the wrong parcel, this total dismissal of everything Rule did as being no good makes you look a fool.

We've already come to terms with the last board's apathy and Kath and Agar's treachery at the last. I've always worried about Mr and Mrs Hetherington, but to say Agar was working against the club the whole time is a nonsense, too.

Agar was a crap coach. Rule made some shocking mistakes. Kath had other motives. But keeping it all in context, yesterday's news didn't undermine everything else we understood to be true.

We made profits by failing to spend the cash we should have done on things like training facilities and youth development

Do you really believe that? Do you honestly think this is the only occasion where the fans have been lied to by the club's previous administration?

Never said that, Jake. I'm sure there's loads of stuff we don't know, like fans of most other clubs. What I am saying is that not everything was a lie and done deceitfully or with bad motives, and a lot of what was acheived off the pitch was good. More than good.

Well said that man. There was another kid on here who posted the same, the apologists didnt like the truth.

The only good things I can see were marketing (which actually diminished in effectiveness due to constant spin and a failure to back it up with any modicum of success on the pitch) and retail sales. I'd say pretty much everything else at the club fell way short of where it should have been for a club the size of Hull FC

I smell troll and a bad one at that

More than good acheivements? I'm sure Arsenal are very happy with 60000 passholders and money in the bank and shirt sales beyond belief.
Means nowt if the win nowt

I wonder if they cough all that up to win summat (or be above Spurs at the moment)

Amazing how quickly a whiff becomes a stench.

1) The Reardon debacle
2) The Challenge Cup registration debacle
3) Taking spin to excessive and unnecessary levels.
4) Lying to the fans about the club owing no money to anyone
5) Missing a match to go on a boozy weekend in Dublin when the club is in crisis
6) The Crocker debacle

And that's just off the top of my head.

But yes, if you put his two year ban for being complicit in covering up a doping scandal to one side, you've certainly got me looking a fool there...

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" Good luck with that, Martin.

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" Good luck with that, Martin.

Oh please.



Your trolling gets worse. If there is any chance of other players being in bother then UKDA will already be after them. What Gleeson does from here on in is immaterial - he's already spilled his guts as part of the agreement that reduced his ban.