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| Anyone watching this? Lots of Wigan bias being shown by the ref inc the sending off which should never of been. Yellow at most but not even that imo
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Who will be the first [ifurious[/i coach of 2015?'"
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Anyone watching this? Lots of Wigan bias being shown by the ref inc the sending off which should never of been. Yellow at most but not even that imo'"
He's trying to make a ball and all tackle and times it wrong. Not a nice tackle, but never a red.
Huge gulf between the sides even before the sending off. Wigan by 60, could even be more if they're in the mood.
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| Ridiculous sending off
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| James Child in "look at me" shocker.
Same old same old.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Ridiculous sending off'"
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"He's trying to make a ball and all tackle and times it wrong. Not a nice tackle, but never a red.
Huge gulf between the sides even before the sending off. Wigan by 60, could even be more if they're in the mood.'"
I take it back. Since the red card Wigan have got more and more sloppy (thinking their job is already done perhaps?), and Widnes are growing. I'd still be shocked if Wigan don't win, but at least we've got something resembling a game.
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| If James Child can become a first grade referee, I can do anything I want to in life.
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| Quote ="the cal train"If James Child can become a first grade referee, I can do anything I want to in life.'"
He's not made any really terrible decisions, but every 50/50 is going to Wigan.
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| Don't like berating refs but Child is consistently useless.
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| Dirty B@~stards..
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| We will miss Heremaia
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| Wigan were gash. Should have won doing cartwheels.
Nothing to dissuade me from the opinion we should have kept Azza.
Nobody will be getting a clean sweep of predictions in round 1.
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| Goodish result for top 4 contenders, not so good for the bottom 4.
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| Quote ="ccs"Goodish result for top 4 contenders, not so good for the bottom 4.'"
On tonight's evidence Wigan are nowhere near top 4. They will definitely improve but from 30 minutes in tonight they were dreadful.
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| Quote ="ccs"Goodish result for top 4 contenders, not so good for the bottom 4.'"
Going on last seasons results, its a point lost for widnes lol
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Wigan were gash. Should have won doing cartwheels.
Nothing to dissuade me from the opinion we should have kept Azza.
Nobody will be getting a clean sweep of predictions in round 1.
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I'm of the same opinion. Thought he played well and think he'll be a big miss for us.
For me I don't see where we've used his salary wisely.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I'm of the same opinion. Thought he played well and think he'll be a big miss for us.
For me I don't see where we've used his salary wisely.'"
Sneyd? Scrum half we've desperately desperately needed
Pryce the experienced big mouth organiser we've needed
Michaels? A genuine pacy experienced threequarter an area that undid us in many games
Azza was one player that we really didn't want to lose but a near 6 figure salary for a interchange player when we had other needs forced the issue. We'll miss him though. I'll miss him. Great player
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| Brian Carney " In a word John sum up for the listeners the impact of Todd Carney signing for Catalans"
John Wells " in a word Brian............. Absolutely massive"
James Child's is Ganson re incarnate. His decisions were constantly correct but he was so bias in favour of Wigan.
As for us well we definitely have not replaced Heramia with something better.
The off half for Wigan looks like he might have a future in the game. I take it he's one of their juniors.
Widnes will improve and do well I think.
Can't wait for Sunday then it really begins.......COYH
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Sneyd? Scrum half we've desperately desperately needed
Pryce the experienced big mouth organiser we've needed
Michaels? A genuine pacy experienced threequarter an area that undid us in many games
Azza was one player that we really didn't want to lose but a near 6 figure salary for a interchange player when we had other needs forced the issue. We'll miss him though. I'll miss him. Great player'"
Sneyd for Miller
Pryce for Horne
Michaels ?
So although different possibly better players I again can't see how Azza's salary has been better invested in the squad as such, unless we are paying considerably more for the players signed as the players who have left salaries would have been there or there about with the players we've brought in.
Cunningham is no where near good enough as yet and for me signing Howarth a complete waste of time and money. I think for consistency and better team balance keeping Azza made more sense instead of 2 inferior back up bookers we could have kept 1 good one.
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| Isn't it a bit early to be hand-wringing about whether we should have released Heremaia?
One bloody game.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Isn't it a bit early to be hand-wringing about whether we should have released Heremaia?
One bloody game.'"
Agreed. Heremaia did have some good games in an Hull shirt but for every good one thered be four average ones. Do people not want the club to progress as it cant if we keep re-signing the same players. Remember Heremaias intention was to retire also but changed his mind when Widnes offered him a last pay day
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Sneyd for Miller
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So although different possibly better players I again can't see how Azza's salary has been better invested in the squad as such, unless we are paying considerably more for the players signed as the players who have left salaries would have been there or there about with the players we've brought in.
Cunningham is no where near good enough as yet and for me signing Howarth a complete waste of time and money. I think for consistency and better team balance keeping Azza made more sense instead of 2 inferior back up bookers we could have kept 1 good one.'"
I think you have answered your own question there, Sneyd and Pryce are the players we have invested in, plus Mini. Seems good investment to be, when we have signed two good halfs, when we have played the last 7/8 years without one.
I still can't see how we can say Cunningham isn't good enough, do you think he has been given enough time at hooker, I don't think he has played 80 minutes at hooker for the first team in a competitive match?
I liked Heremia (although not as good as some made out), but are we getting value for money playing huge sums of money on a player who plays 40 minutes or less and is getting on and picking more injuries.
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| Heremia as gone, get over it! Not a bad result for my accumulator, had widnes with 10 start, so my bets still alive yehhh, come on catalan
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