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| Find it hard to knock houghton, through all the e over the last few years, he's been pretty consistent and grafts his off every game, if he was a little smarter with ball in hand , I have no doubt he'd be playing in the nrl
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Have to completely disagree about Houghtons passing. It was shocking most of the time either around the knees or bulleted shoulder high at a man running at full pace. In fact 2 knock ons came as a direct result of it.'"
Agree with this. It's the major reason our forwards seem to be jogging when catching the ball as they can't time their runs properly. On once occasion last night watts had to practically stop to catch a pass which was behind him. Improves significantly when heremaia is on the pitch
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| Whilst a win is great, some seem to be getting waaay ahead of themselves, Saints were gash from all accounts and had fewer halfbacks than us on the pitch. I said at the beginning of the season we would win some games even without a coach and Radford is still crap.
A draw against a very patchy Cas outfit and a win Friday and some fans seem to forget the dry bumming we got from the goons not two weeks back as well as the absolute shiate all season.
it's all well and good putting in the odd decent display but where was this all season?
Two fit halfbacks (for most of the season) will improve us but you can pretty much guarantee that won't be the case. we won't finish this low down next season (how the feck could we!) but some will still be lauding Radford if we get into the top 8 next year which is still a backward step.
Under him the players seem to have gone backward in almost every depratment this season!
I'd love us to smash it in 2015 but I just can't see it.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Whilst a win is great, some seem to be getting waaay ahead of themselves'"
Really?
Feel free to quote someone getting 'way ahead of themselves'.
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| Agree with most on here. It was certainly scrappy at times, but a wins a win and we haven't had too many this year so we may as well enjoy the feeling for a few days.
The irony being, of course, that even in victory most of our shortcomings were still very much in evidence. Chiefly our inability to turn pressure into points due to well documented failings with ball in hand. Hard to fault the effort and commitment (particulary in defence) and it certainly feels better walking out of a ground after winning than losing.
I still have major doubts about the mid/long term direction of the club, but I'll enjoy the next few days at least.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Agree with this. It's the major reason our forwards seem to be jogging when catching the ball as they can't time their runs properly. On once occasion last night watts had to practically stop to catch a pass which was behind him. Improves significantly when heremaia is on the pitch'"
Easy way to stop this would be to have them running off a first receiver rather than one out from the ruck. It's something we do when Miller played and further back when Long was here.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Whilst a win is great, some seem to be getting waaay ahead of themselves, Saints were gash from all accounts and had fewer halfbacks than us on the pitch. I said at the beginning of the season we would win some games even without a coach and Radford is still crap.
A draw against a very patchy Cas outfit and a win Friday and some fans seem to forget the dry bumming we got from the goons not two weeks back as well as the absolute shiate all season.
it's all well and good putting in the odd decent display but where was this all season?
Two fit halfbacks (for most of the season) will improve us but you can pretty much guarantee that won't be the case. we won't finish this low down next season (how the feck could we!) but some will still be lauding Radford if we get into the top 8 next year which is still a backward step.
Under him the players seem to have gone backward in almost every depratment this season!
I'd love us to smash it in 2015 but I just can't see it.'"
reality!
but hey ho, lots of posters are getting their knee pads on.
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| Quote ="Standee"reality!
but hey ho, lots of posters are getting their knee pads on.'"
You just can't resist having a swipe can you?
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| Some good posts above from people who don't even attend games.
Can Standee or his mate please show me these posts from people going over the top after the Saints win?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You just can't resist having a swipe can you?'"
He is at least consistent. For every club apologist, there's a Standee that only see negatives, probably born from a deep rooted fear of disappointment.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Some good posts above from people who don't even attend games.
Can Standee or his mate please show me these posts from people going over the top after the Saints win?'"
I'll happily have a go for them. I think Friday nights performance showed us a glimpse of what's to come next year. A dominant performance from the pack, which with the addition of the smarts of Sneyd and Pryce next year and some pace in the backs from Lineham, Shaul and (hopefully) our new centre will see us finish top 4.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I'll happily have a go for them. I think Friday nights performance showed us a glimpse of what's to come next year. A dominant performance from the pack, which with the addition of the smarts of Sneyd and Pryce next year and some pace in the backs from Lineham, Shaul and (hopefully) our new centre will see us finish top 4.'"
That's a massive call, the next 2/3 signings would have to real quality, also big improvements would be needed from the coaching staff and our pack would have to much more consistent.
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| Quote ="Dave K."That's a massive call, the next 2/3 signings would have to real quality, also big improvements would be needed from the coaching staff and our pack would have to much more consistent.'"
The post was slightly tongue in cheek, but is that really OTT? I don't think it is.
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| Didn't get that you needed a wink smiley!!!
Not impossible as Cas have shown but unlikely, Catalans and Salford have recruited well so far.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Didn't get that you needed a wink smiley!!!
Not impossible as Cas have shown but unlikely, Catalans and Salford have recruited well so far.'" Sorry.
We're not going to take over Leeds, Wigan, Wire & Saints any time soon, unless we have a remarkably good year (ala Cas). But I think we'll be in the mix with the rest. Catalan will always be weak away from home and Salford will lack consistency for me, lot of ins and outs again.
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| Quote ="*1865*"He is at least consistent. For every club apologist, there's a Standee that only see negatives, probably born from a deep rooted fear of disappointment.'"
I see reality, I see HullFC, OUR CLUB, 4th from bottom and coached by an idiot.
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| Quote ="Standee"I see reality, I see HullFC, OUR CLUB, 4th from bottom and coached by an idiot.'"
But I think you miss the bigger picture completely. This year has been massively disappointing, no two ways about it.
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| Quote ="*1865*"But I think you miss the bigger picture completely.'"
what, the bigger picture of being 4th and coached by an idiot?
jam tomorrow perhaps?
we have won NOTHING for 9 years.....
I am glad you don't work for me, "yes boss, we'll get it done tomorrow, just Ron is having a bit or trouble at home, but he'll be great next week"
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| or the bigger picture of taking two 6th places finishes to bottom 4?
the only reason you see a bigger picture is because you have a closed mind
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| Quote ="Standee"what, the bigger picture of being 4th and coached by an idiot?
jam tomorrow perhaps?
we have won NOTHING for 9 years.....
I am glad you don't work for me, "yes boss, we'll get it done tomorrow, just Ron is having a bit or trouble at home, but he'll be great next week"'"
I am also glad I don't work for you, having a one dimensional boss that only sees problems instead of possibilities and lacking the in depth knowledge to help achieve or solve these must be heart breaking for your staff.
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| Quote ="Standee"or the bigger picture of taking two 6th places finishes to bottom 4?'"
Maybe 6th was only as good as we'd ever achieve without the full restructuring of the club that is going on at the moment? Maybe, just maybe with this restructuring we'll have a platform from which bigger things can be achieved?
Quote ="Standee"the only reason you see a bigger picture is because you have a closed mind'"
Is that even possible?
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| Quote ="*1865*"I am also glad I don't work for you, having a one dimensional boss that only sees problems instead of possibilities and lacking the in depth knowledge to help achieve or solve these must be heart breaking for your staff.'"
we meet our targets, without exception, we put the hard graft in, we never make excuses, we never blame someone else.
we work for each other
we don't perform once or twice a year
shall I go on?
f'ng apologists holding HullFC back......
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| Quote ="Standee"we meet our targets, without exception, we put the hard graft in, we never make excuses, we never blame someone else.
we work for each other
we don't perform once or twice a year
shall I go on?
f'ng apologists holding HullFC back......'"
No the apologists are the ones who go to the games and are helping the club by putting money so that we can try and improve the squad, can you please explain how the apologists are holding the club back?
If we all stop going and buying goods from the club we will lose more money and maybe Pearson will have enough and leave us, I have said this many times, but this happening would be disastrous for Hull.
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| Quote ="Standee"we meet our targets, without exception, we put the hard graft in, we never make excuses, we never blame someone else.
we work for each other
we don't perform once or twice a year
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f'ng apologists holding HullFC back......'"
I love you Standee, I bet you believe all the crap you spout as well. Even the least intelligent Rovers trolls couldn't come up with the drivel you do.
I'll not get involved anymore, i'm sure you know the whole 'taking on idiots at there own game' saying.
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| Quote ="*1865*"icon_lol.gif I love you Standee, I bet you believe all the crap you spout as well. Even the least intelligent Rovers trolls couldn't come up with the drivel you do.
I'll not get involved anymore, i'm sure you know the whole 'taking on idiots at there own game' saying.'"
being right is difficult, but I am used to it.
you want to celebrate mediocrity, put your England shirt on and re-watch Brazil 2014, about your level.
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