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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Our losses are roughly average for SL, iirc. Mean or median, I think. [uRoughly[/u. It's been more noted than at most other clubs because 1. Hudgell has been vocal in his concern and 2. It was, until recently, something you had over us and ghouling about us going 'pop' was all the rage. This created some odd perceptions - even as far afield as the VT, where I once saw a Saints fan offering patronising, though no doubt well-intentioned advice, about how to run a club sustainably, following his club's model.
I suspect Hull's losses are, at least partly, down to paying the inherited tax liabilities left by the previous board, btw, and will look much better in the not too distant. The blot on the horizon (issues with Allam aside) being that your ground rent is rising well ahead of inflation and when that is compounded over several more years it could get difficult.
We pay a peppercorn rent, but get less than you. You pay more, but get a premium service, in relative terms, plus some cashback.
They're both very good deals, in their way.
Easty - slightly pedantic, but I don't think we borrowed from the council - they just underwrote the loan, which is slightly different. Like one of those Amigo loans advertised on television recently.'"
Oh I've made a right old Horlicks of that. Meant to edit and quoted.
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| to be fair to rovers they didn't start any substantial ground improvements until the 99 year lease was finalised in 2005. they did the pitch, east stand and now the north stand. the north stand is a bit of a gamble but rovers are hoping they can increase the amount of both home and away supporters with the better facilities. i'm not convinced by the away support increasing too much, as the facilities at the kc haven't resulted in huge increases in away supporters for us. the exception may be the derby as a lot of hull fans didn't like being housed in immingham to watch it as we all know and stayed away, and there may be a bit of 1st season curiosity from the other club's fans. rovers are looking at quite a few bums on seats to help pay for this development, and these will need to be new bums and not just bums moving from other parts of the ground. (that's enough bums for one post)
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Craven park does not exist'"
It does to me and most people.
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| Quote ="the artist"to be fair to rovers they didn't start any substantial ground improvements until the 99 year lease was finalised in 2005. they did the pitch, east stand and now the north stand. the north stand is a bit of a gamble but rovers are hoping they can increase the amount of both home and away supporters with the better facilities. i'm not convinced by the away support increasing too much, as the facilities at the kc haven't resulted in huge increases in away supporters for us. the exception may be the derby as a lot of hull fans didn't like being housed in immingham to watch it as we all know and stayed away, and there may be a bit of 1st season curiosity from the other club's fans. rovers are looking at quite a few bums on seats to help pay for this development, and these will need to be new bums and not just bums moving from other parts of the ground. (that's enough bums for one post)'"
Put this post on the "Pride of East Hull" forum and you'll not need to make the excuse at the end.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"So, they've took out huge loans and paid for a new stand for a stadium they don't own?
Cracking bit of business. That's like me building a conservatory on next doors house.'"
That's a poor analogy, caravans don't have conservatories.
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| Quote ="Dudley"That's a poor analogy, caravans don't have conservatories.'"
They're not normally painted bright blue either.
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| Quote ="the artist". the north stand is a bit of a gamble but rovers are hoping they can increase the amount of both home and away supporters with the better facilities. i'm not convinced by the away support increasing too much, as the facilities at the kc haven't resulted in huge increases in away supporters for us. the exception may be the derby as a lot of hull fans didn't like being housed in immingham to watch it as we all know and stayed away, and there may be a bit of 1st season curiosity from the other club's fans. rovers are looking at quite a few bums on seats to help pay for this development, and these will need to be new bums and not just bums moving from other parts of the ground. (that's enough bums for one post)'"
I still have my doubts as to whether they will give us the North Stand for the derby or indeed what price they will charge to go in there.
Stiil think we will be in Zeebrugge!
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| Quote ="davey37"I still have my doubts as to whether they will give us the North Stand for the derby or indeed what price they will charge to go in there.
Stiil think we will be in Zeebrugge!'"
Well considering they are selling season passes in the north, it will be a mixed bag in the north.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Too right there no better off then us and we rent the KC, they've got the cost of running repairs & mini kc is worth nothing till its time to sell its like owning any property or land, not worth out till you sell it on...& who would buy that dump.'"
You don't remember the Boulevard do you?
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| Quote ="meatpaste"You don't remember the old CARAVAN PARK do you?
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| Quote ="meatpaste"You don't remember the Boulevard do you?
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I do, and with great affection. I also remember the old Craven Park (a proper rugby ground).
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| Quote ="davey37"I still have my doubts as to whether they will give us the North Stand for the derby or indeed what price they will charge to go in there.
Stiil think we will be in Zeebrugge!'"
Lets hope so !
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I do, and with great affection. I also remember the old Craven Park (a proper rugby ground).'"
The old craven park was a shiithole mish mash of stands with a greyhound track and a field in the middle. Hardly a proper rugby ground
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The old craven park was a shiithole mish mash of stands with a greyhound track and a field in the middle. Hardly a proper rugby ground'"
All old grounds are remembered fondly and with rose-tints.
In the main, they were God-awful, run-down death-traps. Hence their demolition.
The Boulevard, Central Park, The Willows and Craven Park were pretty bad and had some terrible views, portakabin offices and toilets and crumbling terraces.
Think yourselves lucky you're not Fev, Wakey or Cas fans.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"You don't remember the Boulevard do you?
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Sure do played on it many times back in the day in curtain raisers for northern dairies, went to boulevard for years also as a fan started in 89 onwards remember john gallagher dropping that bomb in the premiership semi like it was yesterday as we all went mental! I was 13 at the time. Good times.
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| For now, both sets of fans should take comfort that Dr Allam does not have outright ownership of either ground. Council ownership has never looked so good, in comparison to Allam World.
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| If they get promoted North Ferriby will be playing at the kc lightstream stadium from next season ... Watch this space
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"If they get promoted North Ferriby will be playing at the kc lightstream stadium from next season ... Watch this space'"
Preggy road united...I like it!
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"All old grounds are remembered fondly and with rose-tints.
In the main, they were God-awful, run-down death-traps. Hence their demolition.
The Boulevard, Central Park, The Willows and Craven Park were pretty bad and had some terrible views, portakabin offices and toilets and crumbling terraces.
Think yourselves lucky you're not Fev, Wakey or Cas fans.'"
I'm looking forward to going to fev on sunday. Years since I was there. Does anyone know if they've "moved" the pitch and put the new stand at the end yet?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"If they get promoted North Ferriby will be playing at the kc lightstream stadium from next season ... Watch this space'"
More money in Rovers coffers.
CHING CHING
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"More money in Rovers coffers.
CHING CHING'"
How they don't own the ground.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"How they don't own the ground.'"
They still make money off any event held there iirc
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"They still make money off any event held there iirc'"
Can't imagine it'll be much off a Ferriby fixture in east hull.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Can't imagine it'll be much off a Ferriby fixture in east hull.'"
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Can't imagine it'll be much off a Ferriby fixture in east hull.'"
The biggest benefit for them will be if the footballers churn the pitch up as it will suit their big cumbersome no frills pack.
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