Also one against Huddersfield which they scored off.

Fitz has missed a few games, less than Tickle who everyone wants to keep, would have played more if Agar gave him a break (same as Tickle).

You might be right about a different coach but that is unlikly to happen at the moment.

And so can Lauaki, but you obviously only see what you want to. Would I give Lauaki a new contract, yes I would. He's only 25 for starters. Used in the right way with the a new coach he would be totally devastating. He is an inpact forward, not like Fitz who can play for 80 mins and tackle for 80. Get Rid of Lauaki and who would our inpact forwards be, Props would be O'Meley and Moa, and second row would be Manu, that's it. Tickle, Radford, Fitz, are just workhorses, they simply don't bring the physicality that Lauaki does.

Not sure what age has to do with it and how you would give him a contract on what he has done so far is beyond belief. One impact backrow is enough. The top teams seem to survive with only one, so dont see why we need two. Hopfully next season we will sign a least one new prop with good go foraward, to add to the ones you mentioned.

In a perfect world I would keep Lauaki because he could prove a very useful player, but if we could make a quota spot to sign a top halfback I would keep O Meley, Moa, Berrigan (just) and Fitz before Lauaki.

If we are talking about wasted quota spots, we should have kept King and ditched Cusack

Undecided on who i would get rid of quota wise. Fitz although a great player is aging and he may become a liability rather than an asset. Berro has failed to live up to the hype as well. Lauaki not as good as some are saying but if he is coached properly and given a gameplan to work to SHOULD turn into a great forward.

Hame is just the type of player that we have been crying out for over recent years. He's big, powerful, aggressive, and with ball in hand, he's actually a very skillful player. Yes he has abit of a short-temper and is guilty of ill-discipline at times, but he has been a stand out performer for us this season. Last year everyone was complaining how 'weak' and 'soft' our pack was, and that we needed to be meaner and more physical, well that is why Lauaki was brought in, and for people to say that he wouldnt be missed are just complete hypocrits imo.

we will see how much he will be missed.looks like he's gonna be out for a few weeks.

When did King last have a good season? 2004 or 2005?

2005

We won a trophy and had a great coach at the helm

So you think we should have kept a player who's last good season was five years ago?

hame is still contracted for next season, so unless he asks to be released he'll still be here so its quite pointless people saying we should get rid and use more salary cap money on severence pay

exactly!

I've no doubt that everybody contract will be at the club next year.

If fitz wants to he'll stay as well.

Forget the dykes, raynor and king payoffs it won't be the norm.

We have to hope that we can use the wages from calderwood, dowes, radford, tickle, Manu, cusack, houghton, hall and Kent to get the right deals for retention and recruitment.

he brings what we were lacking, impact. He's not as indisciplined as some say on here. The stats prove that. Lauaki needs to play prop for me though.

I said last year he should be prop.

Then we'd only need one of radford, dowes and cusack.

yup. Radford, lauaki, moa and o'meley as the 4 props. All have an offload too.

don't know the point in a off load! No one supports!

true.

the only time we seem to look creative s on the back of offloads where we haven't planned 5 drives

why not ? Horne is still here

Quote ="HULLMAD"Hame is a penalty machine, and a wild cannon, I said that pre season and I stick by that, He wont ever IMO be like Manu, Willie gets tackled is tough gets back up plays the game and doesnt gives numerous penalties away in the process unlike Hame'" Now I'm not normally one to quote stats in a debate, but on this pure matter of fact I think it's a valid point: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 So in your opinion, 9 penalties in 12 games is a penalty machine, but 8 in 13 games doesn't even qualify as numerous. Interesting.

Quote ="HULLMAD"Hame is a penalty machine, and a wild cannon, I said that pre season and I stick by that, He wont ever IMO be like Manu, Willie gets tackled is tough gets back up plays the game and doesnt gives numerous penalties away in the process unlike Hame'" Now I'm not normally one to quote stats in a debate, but on this pure matter of fact I think it's a valid point: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 So in your opinion, 9 penalties in 12 games is a penalty machine, but 8 in 13 games doesn't even qualify as numerous. Interesting.

Radford has an offload, heard it all now

next you will be telling us he makes line breaks and has a kicking game too

He does, it just doesn't always (or even often) find a teammate.

A torn calf muscle. Could be 2 months or more recovery.
The curse goes on!

Quote ="carl_spackler"Now I'm not normally one to quote stats in a debate, but on this pure matter of fact I think it's a valid point: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 So in your opinion, 9 penalties in 12 games is a penalty machine, but 8 in 13 games doesn't even qualify as numerous. Interesting.'" Ah but you are forgetting he gave a couple away wwhen he had the ball against Rovers, which is a cardinal sin. God forbid one of our players starts to show a bit of passion in a game NB Please note the smiley and the sarcasm involved in this post

Quote ="carl_spackler"Now I'm not normally one to quote stats in a debate, but on this pure matter of fact I think it's a valid point: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 So in your opinion, 9 penalties in 12 games is a penalty machine, but 8 in 13 games doesn't even qualify as numerous. Interesting.'" Ah but you are forgetting he gave a couple away wwhen he had the ball against Rovers, which is a cardinal sin. God forbid one of our players starts to show a bit of passion in a game NB Please note the smiley and the sarcasm involved in this post

H is possibly the most exiting player the club have signed for a long long time and one who scares the crapp out of the opps, he has great feet, great hands , and is lightening fast for a back rower but not a prop , that would be a clanger and a half .
The only thing wrong with him is that he blew everyones socks of with a world class stint at Saints and now everyone expects that every match which is unreasonable.
we wont unfortunately see H again till the next Derby at the earliest IMO depending on what his scan says on Weds, possibly play offs if lateral..

he does.