Shocking waste of talent and symptomatic of the lack of ability of our club to turn promising youngsters into top class 1st grade players

Totally agree with that Jake.
Poor man management by Agar. What must Craig be thinking when Agar states that 'we are short of backs'. His confidence must be in tatters when a loan player is selected for the squad and he his dropped to the reserves.

agar's mana management appears to be worse than his tactical nouse. didn't he slag hall off after a match last season?

He's a Wizard?

We are short of backs though. We had a squad imbalanced in favour of forwards before the season started and no recognised right centre. Add to that the fact we've been without Tony, Raynor and Byrne all season and then lost Briscoe - that means we are short of backs. Unfortunately for Craig, he's been poor when having to fill in at FB this season. On current first team form, there's little to choose between him and Broughton. It would make more sense to play Hall from a long term point of view, but if his confidence is so low, maybe Broughton's the better option right now.

Hall's problem is that his weaknesses are over-exposed because of the lack of quality available to us (either because it's not in the squad anyway or it's on the treatment table) to compensate. He's not got a "safe" environment to develop the defensive and pass selection aspects of his game that he needs if he's going to be a SL centre. Added to that we do not have the capability to utilise his undoubted attacking ability. The lack of backs should be an opportunity for Craig to grab a first team spot in the same way that Burnett has done, but his performances at FB have not warranted his inclusion. The problem is that he's not a rookie any more - he has 42 SL games under his belt - what's the plan for him to get back in the first team?

If I was craig hall and the coach played a Leeds academy loanee instead of me I would be seriously considering my options. Of course there is the possibility craig has asked to be left out for a while. If that was the case if I was agar I'd be considering my options with him. He should of been loaned out to an nl1 team not put in the reserves.

The truth is that his first few games at FB he did well enough, we even had a thread for him about it being his new position. He froze against rovers and never recovered. He has been a victim of the teams poor form and injuries. I would of just stuck him at right centre and told him to play himself into form. But now that whiting is back I don't see a place for him. Unless whiting is moved to 13 but that doesn't fit into our game plan and why would you move whiting????

his confidence was already in tatters,why do you think horney is fullback

God I wish he was, we'd all be in for a rollercoaster ride!!!

Whiting to 6, Hall at centre, leave Horney at full back. Motu on the bench to cover arrangements.

I9 was at the U21 s last saturday and Craig was the reason we beat Wire.

He was solid all the game and made a 60 yard dash for there line which lifted the rest of team. We went on to score off that set and Hall scored as well, he is looking sharper and more relaxed.

Play him he has pace and can do the unexpected, the mistakes happen Yeaman was bad in his early days. Give the lad a chance in his proper position and maybe, just maybe he turn out good.

Spot on Ian, play the lad at centre and give him a run of games.

That's scary Paul surely you don't mean Andy...lol...

Whatever do you mean

I put in the Squad/team for Leeds thread that i'd play Hall at stand off.

Reason been is we'd have his speed and attacking ability back in the side, and he can be covered by the forwards in the defensive line. At centre he is still to exposed to his weakness in defence. I'd leave Horny at full back and i'd play Motu Tony in the centres to ease him back in, he's strong in defence and tough going forward which i have no doubt he'd create scoring opportunities for Calderwood. I'd play Whiting at loose so that he has more time with ball in hand as opposed to recieving once every 6 sets while been out a centre. He'd could prodminantly attack the side of Tony and Calderwood and still create for Calderwood to score plus it leaves him free to roam elsewhere if needs be and like i say given him more time with ball in hand would only be benificial for the team and points scoring.

I believe one of CH's major issues is confidence, taking on the Leeds defence would be a challenge to say the least and not the wisest idea IMO.

There's not many people that shoot him down about things he's done with ball in hand, it's all about his D.

Playing him at 6 where he can easily shadowed in D by our forwards could well be the way to snap him out of this low he's been in. He knows as well as we do that with ball in hand he's a great plus for the side, been out at centre he's to exposed to his weakness. Giving him free roam of the park with ball in hand and covering him in defence could give him the confidence boost he needs.

I think putting him back into the centres especially against Leeds could damage the lad a lot more than he already is. Leeds offer a great threat out wide and puting him up against there backs could have a devastating effect, and not in the possitive sense either.

Fair points, still reckon you'd need to go into the game with confidence though, especially in such an important role.

I know what your saying mate but, what i'm trying to say is playing him in a role like this where he could be covered defensively is more likely to get him his comnfidence back as opposed to playing him in a position where he's exsposed.

He needs a game or a few games to regain his confidence or how can he regain it if he doesn't have that initial game. That's why i'm saying ease back in as opposed to throwing him in like lambs to the slaughter.

It's like when people say a player hasn't got the experiance to play, how can he get that experiance if the player doesn't play.

Catch 22 what do you do?

I an not sure it will help, maybe if the team where on a winning run and confidence was high then they could look after him, it's the same for me as throwing any of the youngsters in when we are low on confidence as a team not just as individual players.

Wouldnt mind seeing Hall have a go at 6 but makes more sense to have a fully wound up Whiting there and play Hall in a more natural position. Tony for centres?? He can't pass! I know that's not a pre-requisite for Hull centres (Yeaman) but there's no way Motu should be in at centre.

agree with hall at 6,he is good with the ball and probably has the pace we need at stand off,maguire is a crap defender so i dont see what the problem is.

Didn't he play at 6 last year at Headingley in June? Not too shabby either.

Obviously not in Agars plans now Broughton is on week by week loan.
IMO he isn't as good as Hall and brings nothing more than Craig can, Agars scapegoat, he's letting good talent go down the pan.

Do most sixes not defend between the winger and the centre?