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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"As far as im concerned Burnsy was only saying on air what the fans were thinking off air. The club in the last few months have made some laughable errors and opened themselves up for criticism.
Since the last episode between Radio Humberside and the club many fans have chosen to see them a pro-Hull KR and jumo upon any negatives coming out towards Hull FC.
Our club have taken any opportunity to advertise KCFM.
I dont care what anyone tells me as far as i'm concerned KCFM are told what they can and can't report by both Hull FC and Hull City. Radio Humberside will not be gagged and for that reason will still get my preference.
If the club don't want negative news they should get themselves sorted out and stop creating it!'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"There is a world of difference between what fans can think and even say in private, and what is acceptable or (in extreme cases) lawful to broadcast. Burns had every right to express his distaste for the signing of Reardon, but the manner in which he chose to do it crossed the first line and came very close to the second.
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Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
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| presenters opinions shouldnt be expressed over the air and thats what the clown did..rightly banned
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"presenters opinions shouldnt be expressed over the air and thats what the clown did..rightly banned'"
boo fecking hoo! get a life.
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| Quote ="red al"boo fecking hoo! get a life.
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ive got one my freind thats why i dont go onto your board spouting rubbish......... and close the door after you my good man as the smell from the rovers caravan is making me gip...thanx
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
I agree. It is a bit of the 'boo hoo hoo they've had a go at us' - teddy out the pram. So David Burns had a pop at the club. Who cares????. Army of black and whites have recently expressed their opinions at the team and board. Currently we are shocking. The Reardon incident was a farce. The Cooke incident - shocking. Our recruitment - poor. Our choice of head coach - mystifying! And now we ban the media for expressing an opinion. So if Warrington are dicking us at half time and the boo's ring out - Will Rule announce on the website that the fans who boo'ed are now banned?????
Free will brother!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
Does nobody bother reading posts any more? Or whole threads?
Oh - and you have an odd idea of what's acceptable content for a publicly- funded broadcaster.
BTW, the cliché you finish with has [inever[/i been true.
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| Quote ="gostrider"We're banning our games from Sky and signing a 5 year deal with CBeebies on Pay per view??????'"
Thought we'd ban the BBC?
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"presenters opinions shouldnt be expressed over the air and thats what the clown did..rightly banned'"
Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.
Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?
It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Our own YouTube channel? Sponsored blimps? Skywriting?'"
Yes Hull FCTV will be renamed RULE TUBE
Lets just say our clubs control over certain aspects of the media will be more enforced
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Yes Hull FCTV will be renamed RULE TUBE
Lets just say our clubs control over certain aspects of the media will be more enforced
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At least Hutchie has taken his blinkers off... pity a few others are still bearing the standard of the blind faithful
Well done Hutchie for speaking your mind
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"At least Hutchie has taken his blinkers off... pity a few others are still bearing the standard of the blind faithful
Well done Hutchie for speaking your mind'"
He's just re-directed them.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.
Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?
It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?'"
burns is a paid employee of the bbc
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.'"
If you really can't see the difference between what's said by fans on a forum and what's broadcast by a presenter on a publicly-funded radio station then you're even dafter than I previously thought.
Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?'"
There is a perfectly acceptable middle ground in which the vast majority of broadcast media function.
Quote ="Sexual Deviant"It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?'"
Yes indeed, folks. Refusing to speak to a local radio station is directly comparable to the actions of the Waffen SS.
One more such comparison and I'll invoke Godwins.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"burns is a paid employee of the bbc'"
Hot off the press is that?
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Precisely.
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