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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Having considered the aforementioned, i know a lot of you have shouted down MUH, but he's right when he says an awful lot of you need to be in posession of valid facts instead of letting your obvious anti-football bile cloud your judgement.
Let's say for argument's sake, we got the game at the KC, and it's England versus Australia. England turn up, all bullish and bristling with intent, Australia turn up quietly, looking a bit half-ar$ed. By half time Australia are 30-40 points to the good, a capacity crowd are more than a tad cheesed off, and vow never to waste an evening in such a way again.
The simple fact of the matter is RL fills the KC once, maybe twice a year. Football is filling it twice a month. This immediately blows the 'blow to the local economy' argument clean out the water.
One way to demonstrate to the SMC (not Duffen, the SMC) that RL can be a commercially viable activity is to fill the ground this Friday. Will it happen? I think we know the answer.'" Ask yourself this question......"I wonder what would be the 'state of play' if there were two soccer teams and only one RL team in the city"? Then sit back and think about it.
Answer.........You will probably realise that there are just as many rugby fans as there are soccer. OK, Hull FC only have an average of around 13,000 supporters and then theres a few thousand more that turn up for the 'bigger' games. So.....unless you choose to bury the fact that Hull City have a mostly 'fickle glory seeking following' (YES.....ITS TRUE) that have jumped on the premiership bandwagon, you will remember the days when BOTH Hull and Rovers had bigger and louder crowds than City could only dream of! Most 'new Tigers fans' will no doubt be getting mummy to wash their Liverpool. Newcastle and Man U shirts.....'just in case'!!!!
This City has always been a Rugby League nest.......and this fact should be respected by the 'fly-by-nights' that come and go while in charge of the lesser loved club!
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Having considered the aforementioned, i know a lot of you have shouted down MUH, but he's right when he says an awful lot of you need to be in posession of valid facts instead of letting your obvious anti-football bile cloud your judgement.
Let's say for argument's sake, we got the game at the KC, and it's England versus Australia. England turn up, all bullish and bristling with intent, Australia turn up quietly, looking a bit half-ar$ed. By half time Australia are 30-40 points to the good, a capacity crowd are more than a tad cheesed off, and vow never to waste an evening in such a way again.
The simple fact of the matter is RL fills the KC once, maybe twice a year. Football is filling it twice a month. This immediately blows the 'blow to the local economy' argument clean out the water.
One way to demonstrate to the SMC (not Duffen, the SMC) that RL can be a commercially viable activity is to fill the ground this Friday. Will it happen? I think we know the answer.'"
you mean bandwagon jumpers
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| I think Mr Duffen spat his dummy out over the RL international because he'd just been skanked by Fulham for £5m and then been told the player wasn't insured because it had happened before and was therefore a pre existing condition.
Doubt his mood will have improved after watching his team lose to the team he'd rather be chairman of.
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| Quote ="Zaphod"I think Mr Duffen spat his dummy out over the RL international because he'd just been skanked by Fulham for £5m and then been told the player wasn't insured because it had happened before and was therefore a pre existing condition.
Doubt his mood will have improved after watching his team lose to the team he'd rather be chairman of.'"
Think you maybe right..we won't have this problem next season when they are back in the championship
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| Can't for the life of me see why people think this is a Hull City thing. Every other stadium booked for the tournement has either a football or RU team playing during a winter season.
Speaking of the venues though, the RFL really do think small time. Aus vs NZ at the Stoop? Last time they played in London they got a bigger crowd than the capacity of the Stoop. Donny, Wigan and Hudds? I must have imagined the game at the COM which attracted 39k not so long back, and the fact that they sold out Elland Road before. The RFL are too obsessed with getting a full stadium for internationals. Why not hold the England games against NZ and Aus at Anfield and Elland Road with the final at the COM? If they don't sell out, so what. They will get bigger crowds than the venues they are hosted at now. The France game is never going to get a big crowd up north, for me it has expansion written all over it. Could at played it in Nottingham, Leicester or Birmingham to test the water there.
Also think think they should have had the NZ vs Aus game at Craven Cottage. Decent size crowd and will acommidate the crowd quite well.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"None of us know the answer to those questions. I suppose a lot depends on whether City stay up or not.
Although sporting events make up a huge slice of stadium revenue, other means of income (conferences etc.) keeps the pot boiling, so to speak.'"
Exactly the point I was trying for. If City go down, might the council bosses, and the council tax payers of KuH, be a bit miffed that the managers of the stadium appear to have turned down an opportunity to bring in some additional revenue to the SMC/city economy when one of the main revenue bringers suffers a decrease in income?
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| Quote ="The Key"Can't for the life of me see why people think this is a Hull City thing. '"
its easy to blame them isnt it.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"its easy to blame them isnt it.'" I tell you what....I almost let out a small wee when the final whistle blew last night......Just the thought of Duffen and co whincing at the prospect of a relegation battle made me feel glad all over
OK.....Sad I know.....but I just can't help the way I feel. We are being ruled by wannabe world beaters.....and it sucks! If it means that Hull City have to go down for us to host a major international.......So be it
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| just been on radio Mr Duffen as said that the RFL would not wait till the Football fixtures where out I REST MY CASE.
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| Quote ="Chez_FC_Fan"just been on radio Mr Duffen as said that the RFL would not wait till the Football fixtures where out I REST MY CASE.
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If this is true then it is very shortsighted by Mr Duffen.
OUR community stadium had the opportunity to host a top RL game (we would have got the England V NZ game apparently). The current world champions in our city...what an honour and another big crowd.
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| Quote ="Chez_FC_Fan"just been on radio Mr Duffen as said that the RFL would not wait till the Football fixtures where out I REST MY CASE.
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Ahem....Wigan,Donny,Elland road...............Duffens a pr1ck,been caught lieing.....saying that,i aint botherd as it will be same old faces....more botherd about FC.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"its easy to blame them isnt it.'"
Well what the hell is it then.........Duffens just admitted on radio its to do with Citys fixtures.
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| Quote ="The Key"Can't for the life of me see why people think this is a Hull City thing.'"
Seems that it is after all. Alone among all the football sides involved, Hull City were unable or unwilling to compromise on fixtures.
Pathetic.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seems that it is after all. Alone among all the football sides involved, Hull City were unable or unwilling to compromise on fixtures.
Pathetic.'"
And this is why the SMC should be run by a neutral person.
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| duffen has to resign from the chairman of the smc imo, he HAS a conflict of interest, what a load of b0ll0x regarding waiting for the fixtures, hull city ALWAYS request an away fixture when hull fair is in town, so what is the difference!?
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| I think Duffen is being very pedantic. He says the RFL would not be guaranteed a date prior to the football fixtures coming out in June and therefore stalemate has resulted.
Are there not two days of every weekend? surely whichver football league City would be playing in would be informed and either put City away that weekend or arrange for a Sunday game. it happens all the time in football these days.
Duffen seems to be saying that 3pm saturday is football time - its not!
Like I say, Mr duffen has failed to convince me this is not anything more than pedantic to say the least, and I say that as City season ticket holder.
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| Did he mention something about Hull FC having a game? I thought I heard this, but I may be mistaken.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seems that it is after all. Alone among all the football sides involved, Hull City were unable or unwilling to compromise on fixtures.
Pathetic.'"
Agreed - very short sighted decision and damaging for his reputation, particularly amongst non Hull City fans.
Still, it will be interesting to see what defence 'My Uncle Nobhead' comes up with for this one.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And this is why the SMC should be run by a neutral person.'"
Agreed. Of all the grounds i thought we may get a knock back would have been the JJB, Not KC.
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| Quote ="number 6"duffen has to resign from the chairman of the smc imo, he HAS a conflict of interest, what a load of b0ll0x regarding waiting for the fixtures, hull city ALWAYS request an away fixture when hull fair is in town, so what is the difference!?'"
And Hull City dont always get an away fixture during the fair eg. west ham on the sunday during fair, and previous years have been the same .
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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"I tell you what....I almost let out a small wee when the final whistle blew last night......Just the thought of Duffen and co whincing at the prospect of a relegation battle made me feel glad all over
OK.....Sad I know.....but I just can't help the way I feel. We are being ruled by wannabe world beaters.....and it sucks! If it means that Hull City have to go down for us to host a major international.......So be it
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| Seems odd that the SMC are turning down the chance to presumably make a tidy sum for hosting the game.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Well what the hell is it then.........Duffens just admitted on radio its to do with Citys fixtures.'"
He also said that if the FA. requested to play a U21 game and there was a possible conflict re. an FC game he would have told the FA. the same as the RL.
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"Yes it is sad , wanting a local club to to do badly .'"
Well when your dick of a chairman pulls a stunt like this then what do you expect.
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"He also said that if the FA. requested to play a U21 game and there was a possible conflict re. an FC game he would have told the FA. the same as the RL.'"
Thats total bolloxs as they play bloody mid-week...just like the other U-21 games have when we have played...so thats pi££ed on that theory.
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