Awww come on, that was pretty enjoyable 2nd half and gp, plenty of effort, plenty of rubbish, but at least entertaining

And those are the good points

The board is boring when we are winning anyway

Several players we know are not good enough but I think we should ask questions of the coach and the conditioning staff

Efforts there. . Salford and cas where the matches what cost us

Never mind lads . Not good enough need to dust down and make sum changes for next year.

How Newman didn't get the Sky MOM ill never know

Got a stay of execution with Martin's missed conversion.

Some improvements in offence but the defence especially on our left was poor for much of the game.

Looking like an 8th place finish, which is a massive disapppointment. The wheels fell of at the end of June. Sitting in 5th looking good then we had the Rovers/Salford/Leigh postponements and came back after a break with poor defeats to Huddersfield and Leeds.

How did we throw that away, I thought we played well upto about 60 minutes, then we just hit a wall physically, and unravelled mentally.

We need to improve our fitness
The organisation from Sneyd and Houghton isn't good enough, they both were playing pretty well with some big moments in the game, but then they spoil it with some atrocious decisions making and brain farts. As some one pointed out not even being at the ay the ball is criminal and we're seeing it often.

The set of 6 in golden point. We're on tackle 4, 35 yards out, all you have to do is give it to Satae for the final drive, then setup the drop goal attempt who's organising? As instead we think it's the final tackle and start throwing it around panicking, absolute shambles.

New spine and leaders needed.

Thought Connor was brilliant, as well as Savelio and Mau, thought Fonua was steady too no brain farts.

Be interesting if they can though with the situation in terms of contracts as certainly some poor decisions made with recruitment that has us back in a hole which is a repeat of the start of AP’s ownership and all the work done by Motu has been undone.

My mojo has pretty much gone for FC. Didnt even watch the first half. Watched the second and wasnt impressed. Teams a shambles, no organisers, effectively playing with about 11 mean as Scott and Bowden are absolutely useless. Theres a making of a good side there but not under this coach. Hes naive, talks a good game, but hasnt actually got much of a clue but thats what happens when you pluck lower grade coaches out of the NRL and expect them to be amazing over here - Hes akin to Craig Sandercock was at Rovers imo. Not his team i know but hes done nothing with what hes got just made them be more disorganised.

Fair summary and to be honest I actually thought Johnstone had a better game than he done for a while.

Houghton again not being ready at ptb is criminal

Happy to be wrong earlier, the lads had a good dig tonight but just looked rudderless at times. Poor discipline and lacklustre defending will be the story of this season.

Can't say fairer than that. Can you imagine how bad we would be without Connor



We looked gassed near the end, but 10 points up in the 2nd half we should've closed the game out.

If we go into next season with the same roster we'll get the same results.

We're not big enough to steamroller teams anymore, but we're not smart/quick enough to take advantage of teams either. We're some dull in the middle team.

What frustrates me is we have the team we never get a quality coach to make it work! Hodgson really?

Spend spend on the coach!

What frustrates me is we have the team we never get a quality coach to make it work! Hodgson really?

Spend spend on the coach!

I think if the disallowed try had been given we would have won. Video refs seem to dislike us for some reason. Looking on though, problem for us is that a lot of our players are still signed on for next year. I’m sorry, but we have a lot of bang average and also some declining players who we need to move on. Unless Pearson can get his wallet out and Hodgson is strong and makes a lot of changes, next year isn’t going to be much better. I think we need two or even three new props, a second row, new hooker, and another quality centre, maybe even a 6 or 7. I know this sound drastic but who we have at the minute just ain’t good enough consistently and our second string and young lads are poor, we have no strength in depth. All down to money though and I don’t think we have any.

For me Scott. Fairmo. Bowden. Taylor. Masi. Can go. Fairmo already has. We need another 2 props which I believe Hodgson is sorting. Shaul will be fitter next year. We will have swift Macintosh Griffin Reynolds back. Cator lane back. We do need an overall and this year has gone to t.it's up. Sport can be a cruel game and tonight proved it.

Ask yourselves now
Do we have a good coach? Questions have to be asked
Bowden 13 minutes first half 14 minutes second half should still be fresh yet did sweet FA so why is he playing when we have a young lad eager to have a go who couldnt do any worse

Bench
Wynne comes on for only thirteen minutes before the game goes into extra time
McNamara? how many times now have we had a player unused on the bench.Whats the point ?
Fonua would have been a more versatile and better bench option and then play Mitch on the wing
Has he improved our discipline. No
How many more times do we watch players fall asleep at the play the ball
Supporters calling for Connor to return to 6 as McNamara offered nothing there but it took three games for the coach to make the change.
personally like Brett Hodgson but i think he is too loyal to certain players and not ruthless enough.
Lets see now what Adam Pearson does now the season is over

Every set in extra time was so poor , we are so disorganised and even some of our end of sets in 80 mins was amateurish . We need more rugby brains in the team , not just in the spine . I said a few years ago we was mentally weak , and nothing has changed . Don’t know what the answers are , but future signings shouldn’t be based on just names , back to basics for me and build gradually.

Who's this mystery prop to replace Bowden?

BH has his hands tied with this squad. It's threadbare, he's been let down by senior squad players when asked to step in (Bowden, JJ, Fonua). Long term injuries to senior players have played a part.

BH is on a 3 year deal. Its going to take that long to get any semblance of the squad he wants.

The video ref system is not fit for purpose.
Sky will tell everyone what an exciting finish it was to the game. Reality is that it should never have got to that point, and only did so due to the pure ineptitude on the part of Thaler (again).

Joke sport I’m afraid at times.

The young lad who was named in the squad is a front row.No mystery.
My point was even as a rookie he could have done the minutes Bowden did and maybe even a bit more impact

I agree Hodgson has his hands tied but he is also coming up with questionable bench selections and leaving a player unused on the bench again then you have to ask why was he selected in the first place.

His only signing Reynolds was always a gamble given his injury record and it hasnt paid off but we have seen glimpses of what he can do but i am not sure following this latest injury that he will carry on

Next season Hodgson has his hands tied with only one overseas quota available which i understand will be an overseas front row.
Unless the club are ruthless and try to move contracted players on Like Taylor,Sneyd,Fonua,Johnstone he will be left with the same squad which only leaves his third year to bring in new players he wants.

The interesting thing is what Pearson will do now the season is over given we have not heard anything about Sao and Mau extending their contracts and it would be a blow to lose them.

Am sure you will tell us this over and over again in the next 4 month. Nothing there we don't already know and you havnt told us many many times. I agree with you on that point that we need some changes. But we already know that. Hodgson will I believe make changes for next year. How he does it I don't know. But it can be done and I reckon has already been started

An improved performance but that's not hard given how poor the last two performances were!

Not feeling too down as I'd accept the season was over weeks ago, and personally is rather we avoid a playoff defeat and have a bit longer over winter to try and put things right.

2022 isn't going to be a lot of laughs supporting FC but if it's the pain we need to go through to get better in the long run then so be it.