Hows Edens "toe"

Agree. Don't think anyone can take the low "turnout" as an indication of apathy.

Spoke to a colleague today for the first time since the vote. She is vehemently anti Hull Tigers and passionately wants to retain Hull City as as the embodiment of the club's history and tradition. She says a name change would be akin to removing the soul of the club.

She voted "Not too concerned will support the club either way". Astounded, as I know how desperately she is No to Hull Tigers, I asked why. Apparently, on the ballot paper you had to report your name, address and seat number. My friend pointed out that she didn't feel comfortable identifying herself as a No voter and being tagged as 'Anti Allam' (she's not against Allam and wants him to stay) bearing in mind that the following week the club were going to be allocating the FA Cup semi tickets. She actually thought voting No would jeopardize her chance of getting tickets, plus she didn't want the Allams to think her No vote was a vote against their ownership.

So as well as threats, loaded questions and dubious administration, the ballot was not anonymous. I'll wager the vast majority of passholders were reluctant to reveal themselves as No voters to the Allams. Understandably, really, with their past history of over-reaction and vengeful outpourings to perceived slights.

This wasn't a referendum about a change of name. It was rigged blackmail, in my opinion. And I admire the bravery of the 46% that had the courage to vote 'No' but thoroughly understand the motives of those far too uncomfortable or downright scared to vote "No", like my friend, who will have voted neutrally or not at all, certainly not because of apathetic reasons. They are Allam's real 'silent majority'.

Can we lock this bollacks until the evil doctor try's buying the kc again . Has no relevance to hull fc does it ? I might start an everton thread

quick lock it!!!

on everton.

biggest thing to annoy me is the fact its only pass holders who get a vote.i had a pass at boulevard for 15+ years but hav'nt had one at k.c for alot of reasons which i won't bore you with.i still attend all the home games so i'm no less of a supporter than anyone with a pass.they could of just had ballot boxes on every turnstyle at a big game to get a broader opinion poll (which is probaly why they never).what is a mystery is how these fantastic buisness men can't market a team with the nick name the tigers but can a team called hull tigers.its the worst cover up of his hatred of the council ever.fair play to him for saving the club but his constant sulking and stamping his feet when he does'nt get his own way is always going to end badly one day.i seem to remember the city fans love of duffen not so long ago

Its like WormInHand said they wanted names,addresses and seats numbers.People were apprehensive they'd be victimised if they voted no.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I think the way this whole distasteful saga has been drawn out reflects very clearly the sort of people the Allams are. As owners of the SMC they do have daily impact on Hull FC and are very relevant to this forum. If they are prepared to subject their own fans and paying customers to this sort of distress simply because of their City Council hatred (because that is what this is all about and, yes, at the root of that the stadium ownership remains the unexploded bomb that will again be detonated) what will they do to us if they decide we are a hindrance to their objectives?

They remain a potential danger to us and it is right and prudent to examine and assess their actions.

If that is the criteria for closing this thread perhaps we should best keep it open then. The 'secret ballot' and the way it was etched in the questions asked tells us a lot about how devious they are. The SMC continue to make it very hard for our C|ub and don't worry the Stadium and then us lot are high on his hit list I'm sure of that. And folks at the Rovers Club tell me that he's wanting his loan back from them too! I don't say we should be obsessed by it all but in my opinion we should all be very watchful!

Indeed, this topic has more relevance than some others on here.

Quite. And that "soft" loan now becoming harder. Given Allam's previous for doing 180s, shouldn't really come as a surprise

Would they ? As if nal did come 5th , they'd be already in it , so wouldn't city still get in ?

Found this on the Premier Leaage website

Should the FA Cup winners, runners-up (if applicable) and the Football League Cup winners already have qualified for Europe, their place goes to the next best placed clubs in the Premier League.

Looks like City would miss out if they lost the final

I will call them .......... The tigers

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I have your names and addresses

and his gesture offering 20 free tickets for Council staff for the game on Sunday for them to support the team.

absolutely brilliant!

Tsk, think we only got 10, I sense favoritism/bribery.

Allam's conduct has influence on the SMC, which has influence over FC, therefore perfectly relevant to keep it open.

So mote it be.

What, when he said this?:
"Unfortunately, our local council had different views and I did not spend the money. We not only had different views but there was lying and cheating which was not on. So I severed my relationship with the council and said that’s the end of it.
'I said in September 2011 the matter is closed, my relationship with the council is done. Would you talk to liars and cheats? No. "

It's almost as if it was untrue.



"Allam added he would also go away within 24 hours if the name change is rejected by the FA, whose council has absolute discretion to decide.

"Still the same thing. It's a free country. No two ways about it. [uHave I ever said something and went back on it? No[/u," he said."

Apart from moving to Melton, claiming the sporting village had no commercial aspect, finishing absolutely any council dealings, and walking away in the event of the FA declining the name change, you mean?

Why would you be frightened that he knew who you was....If I felt so strongly about an issue, I'd want him to know who I was and that I was totally apposed to his plans......given the opportunity if I felt that strongly I'd want to hand him my opinion personally, not as if he could have you shot is it.
FFS, stand up for what you believe in regardless of the consequences!!!!!

Why does Allam need names and addresses? Nobody knows how you vote in a political election.

Just mention Lee Radford playing for Hull RU, thats going to get it locked

One of the posts of the year, well said that man

If i was a City fan and against Allam i wouldnt give a flying if he knew my name, where i live my inside leg etc.
I'd make suew i knew every detail about the odius toad.

Know your enemy

FA so no to Hull tigers.