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| On paper Hull are a top 6 side at the very least. I know it's a lopsided league table due to win percentages, but I'm amazed you won only 8 games out of 21.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I still think Reynolds might retire. Maybe the club can use the video they have of him to force that through'"
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| Of their is any evidence of either him or Fonua doing anything wrong that we could cancel their contracts we should be doing it.
Those two off the cap and the extra two quota spots could make a massive difference to the squad.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?'"
I see nothing. The last couple of months have been dire and have steadily gotten worse. I have been really disappointed in his ability to address the current slide which has seen us lose to basically everyone in the last few weeks without any sign of improvement. He hasn't been able to galvanise the side or rally them into a response. I've seen no shoots of progress under him, the style of rugby is one dimensional in both attack and defence. His use of interchanges is appaling. He simply doesn't inspire confidence. Convince me otherwise.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?'"
I think for a lot of fans who have experienced a lot of coaches over the years feel that the fact that his comments on the attitude and feeling and indeed the wanting in the camp leading up to games bears no resemblance to what happens when the team actually takes to the field is a telling indication. Its acceptable occasionally of course it is, attitude is a difficult one to control but of late it has been a regular occurrence. talk like world beaters play like egg beaters.
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| Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.'"
Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.
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| There’s been a common theme at the club regarding culture, all the way back to when Bomber first called it out.
The promises of reviews and changes won’t wash anymore, as we’ve heard it countless times over the years.
I’m at the point that I’d rather be part time, in a league below, watching players put a shift in and enjoying watching rugby again.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.'"
I get that but the point I'm making is that it won't be helping Hodgson when his Boss is telling everyone that there's going to be massive changes to the playing squad, that just adds to the pressure, I only used Watson as a comparison as he was new in the job to and had a lot of expectations on him aswell.
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| As it stands and I hope it will change, but I'm not sure there will be a set of fans less confident about next season, even Hudds, they have a few new players coming in and some exciting youngsters.
We look like having a similar squad and going into next season with the worst pivots in SL.
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| INOUT Quote ="Dave K."As it stands and I hope it will change, but I'm not sure there will be a set of fans less confident about next season, even Hudds, they have a few new players coming in and some exciting youngsters.
We look like having a similar squad and going into next season with the worst pivots in SL.'"
I tried saying on here the other day that the best way to fill your squad out is by bringing in younger hungry lads from the championship, they maybe won't be first team starters but after being in a full time environment you'd hope they'll get there so when injuries bite there ready. IMHO opinion the player pool isn't big enough to make wholesale changes, which is probably why your linked with Joe Wardle
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| Quote ="bishops finger"INOUTI tried saying on here the other day that the best way to fill your squad out is by bringing in younger hungry lads from the championship, they maybe won't be first team starters but after being in a full time environment you'd hope they'll get there so when injuries bite there ready. IMHO opinion the player pool isn't big enough to make wholesale changes, which is probably why your linked with Joe Wardle'"
The only way we can bring in the quality players needed would be to either play transfer fees or sign from overseas, the 2nd option would mean trying to release a couple of contracted overseas players.
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| Quote ="Dave K."The only way we can bring in the quality players needed would be to either play transfer fees or sign from overseas, the 2nd option would mean trying to release a couple of contracted overseas players.'"
It's pretty rare that players are released early from contracts Dave because that means paying them off and there isn't a lot of money in rugby to pay them off with is there?
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| Quote ="bishops finger"It's pretty rare that players are released early from contracts Dave because that means paying them off and there isn't a lot of money in rugby to pay them off with is there?'"
I think AP has done it once before, when he paid off a few players , the likes of Arundel etc. I’m sure he said It cost him upwards of £250K (might have remembered the amount wrong though, might have been even more).
We haven’t got the money to do it now for sure. Now AP has alluded to changing the squad around, it could actually make things more difficult. Other clubs will know we’re desperate to get rid, and it will be easy for them to play hardball.
There again, who would want some of them on the wages they’re on?
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I still think Reynolds might retire. Maybe the club can use the video they have of him to force that through'"
Go on then, I’ll bite - what’s this video and what has allegedly happened?
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| Quote ="bishops finger"It's pretty rare that players are released early from contracts Dave because that means paying them off and there isn't a lot of money in rugby to pay them off with is there?'"
I don't think he has a choice, how much will 2000 passholdrrs not renewing cost him.
2/3 positive signings before Christmas and fans will forget about this season and most will renew (maybe more, as alot like me couldn't get a pass due to restrictions)
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| Quote ="Aswilco93"Go on then, I’ll bite - what’s this video and what has allegedly happened?'"
Someone made an allegation on social media last night naming Reynolds , Not sure if these are linked but if they are wrong , That person could find himself in a whole lot of bother !!
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| Don’t need a video if you ever take a stroll in Hessle or Old Town. Heard he was told he was off before magic.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Don’t need a video if you ever take a stroll in Hessle or Old Town. Heard he was told he was off before magic.'"
He was offered to NRL clubs months ago, but nobody bit
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He was offered to NRL clubs months ago, but nobody bit'"
Do you think he'll be playing for us again?
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He was offered to NRL clubs months ago, but nobody bit'"
With his injury record and age he wont get a club in the NRL or S/L
My guess is he and the club will come to an arrangement and he will retire.
Older players who have suffered long term injuries seem to go on and become injury prone.In our case Taylor and Bowden are good examples as age is also not on their side.
Shaul seems to have broken down again and it will be interesting to see how Griffin recovers as again both are getting towards the end of their careers.
Cator on the other hand is probably young enough to make a complete recovery without becoming injury prone like older players.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Do you think he'll be playing for us again?'"
As soon as he got injured he told his neighbours that would be it for him - going home. But, maybe he got a better diagnosis than he expected? It would be 200k that we could use elsewhere
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| My friends husband was doing some work at one of Reynolds neighbours houses, he said that he’d said he was going back to Aus for his rehab, said it sounded like he planned on coming back.
There’s a lot of talk about how it’s not BH team players etc and yes, maybe he can’t make them perform on the field for whatever reason but that doesn’t mean he can’t alter the culture within the club ! I’ve line managed people and you can only take a horse to water but he should have been able to command enough respect that the likes of Fonua don’t go out drinking before big games (and cop of an internal ban) same with Reynolds, he brought him over he should have been well aware of his reputation. For those reasons I don’t think he’s up to the job. If AP is going to cut his losses, he needs to start at the top !
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| Gaz Ellis (champion human being) - well they're certainly not listening to him and Gaz has only one job to do!
Stuart Pearce couldn't get players to perform either.
Great players don't usually make great man managers, as they struggle to understand why people don't think as they do.
Gaz needs to move on as he clearly can only coach like-minded players, as the results suggest.
I have worked in high-level management in the City for many years. Many businesses make the incorrect decision to promote the best performers, hoping to see that rub off. It invariably doesn't.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He mentions quality players, and then the 2 names mentioned this week are Scurr and Joe Wardle. Hopefully that's the depth, and the rumours of the quality will start this week.
Hopefully Fonua and Reynolds can be moved on and then 400k comes available and 2 quota spots'"
Those two will hopefully be signings 4 and 5.
With 2 quota signings, including a prop, halfback and hooker
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