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| Quote ="bonaire"really?
Motu has identified these players to Radford not the other way round
radford has then watched them on TV and obviously liked what he has seen. James Clarke given the go ahead to start negotiations by AP and Radford'"
Pure conjecture on your part.
You have no idea if Motu Tony is still scouting for the club. You are just unwilling to admit that Radford might just be good at spotting talent.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Pure conjecture on your part.
You have no idea if Motu Tony is still scouting for the club. You are just unwilling to admit that Radford might just be good at spotting talent.'"
You mean like Langtree,Levy,Thompson,Miloudi,Harris, and probably Bienek
As for Motu ring James Clarke.Its hardy confidential information
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| The big question the club should be asking is every time they put on a promotion the Players do not turn up, this has been going on ever since AP took over. Seems the bigger the home crowd the less the players want to know.
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| Quote ="bonaire"You mean like Langtree,Levy,Thompson,Miloudi,Harris, and probably Bienek
As for Motu ring James Clarke.Its hardy confidential information'"
Taylor, Sneyd, Kelly, Griffin, Connor, Naulago, Jones - how many of them came via Motu.
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| Quote ="bonaire"You mean like Langtree,Levy,Thompson,Miloudi,Harris, and probably Bienek
As for Motu ring James Clarke.Its hardy confidential information'"
I’ve got his number
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| Agree with Wilde 3 on most of his points, feel being a bit harsh on Shaul ,i believe its the way we set up we are to easy to read and opposition are ready for everything. Sneyd..well yes he has won us plenty of games with his kicking , tactical and goal however for me he creates nothing ,i come from an age when half backs ruled the roost, afraid the days of Toppo and sterling have gone.Some will say a different game but for me play basic rugby well and you get results Salford do it ,yes they have won nothing but with a far smaller squad and players who have left they still produce.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Taylor, Sneyd, Kelly, Griffin, Connor, Naulago, Jones - how many of them came via Motu.'"
All of them, apparently all good signings = not
All signings that don't work out = Radford
Ring James Clark he'll tell you.
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| I’m sure I heard an interview recently where Radford said he watched every NRL reserve game, and they’ve been looking at Satae for a couple of years.
I don’t always agree with how he sets Hull up, and how we play, but there’s no denying his rugby knowledge and ability to spot a player.
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| The 2 biggest issues for me are our pizz poor defence and our lack of basic passing skills. At times we look like a team of 6 year olds when we pass the ball. Basic skill and the level were at is shocking.
No defensive intensity or aggression and missed tackles galore. Regularly large numbers of errors and penalties given away every game.
Radford isnt the one making the mistakes on the field but he is the one responsible for preparing the team. If it were just one or two players doing it you could blame the individual but for me it's too many of them and it happens too often for it to be down to the individual.
It seems to me things are a bit cosy at Hull. When was the last time someone was dropped for a poor performance?
As for shaul, he does have his deficiencies but you could put coote at fb for us and he wouldn't do much better with the ponderously slow and inaccurate ball hed get from our other players
Sl will, be harder next year imo with Wigan, Leeds and wire being better at least so I don't expect us to win anything but I do expect us to compete every week and not give up and get hammered every few weeks
One final point, having listened to Radford post match interview after Friday's game, where he sounded like a spoilt brat, blaming his players, it was a refreshing change to listen to the eloquent Tony Smith's interview after an equally disappointing defeat for his team where he refused to blame the players and said the buck stopped at him. Theres a lot to like about radford but he needs to stop slogging his players off in public
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| Leeds wont be much better , but Wigan certainly will and probably be the only chalenge to Saints dominance with Hull and Wire a fair distance behind and the rest a poor standard probably led by Cas
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Leeds wont be much better , but Wigan certainly will and probably be the only chalenge to Saints dominance with Hull and Wire a fair distance behind and the rest a poor standard probably led by Cas'"
The best resourced clubs are Wigan, Leeds, Saints and Warrington so would expect things to settle round them as the Top 4 - that is generally the case with the odd incursion by us, Cas, and spectacularly Salford this time round. Catalans, Hull, etc need to pedal harder to offset the top group's advantages. Bit of luck either way on injuries can have a big impact, which is why it's pointless having overblown expectations, better to enjoy the journey in my experience.
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| Give Connor a decent run at FB, and see how he goes. I expect our attack will be improved. Shaul is awesome at times but a play maker is more important in our team. Next season it looks like we won’t have a ball playing 13 either so I think this highlights the need for a decent pivot at FB
Long term we definitely need an attack coach like Wilde alluded to. I like Radford a lot but if I was in Pearson’s shoes then I’d pay big money for a new coach. If none available then look for an attacking coach as plan B
A new captain wouldn’t go amiss either. My choice would be Manu Ma’u. Taylor could keep his VC. Literally nobody else springs to mind whatsoever... which perhaps says something about the grit and determination we often lack. Nothing wrong with a bit of change
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| Quote ="rodney_trotter"Give Connor a decent run at FB, and see how he goes. I expect our attack will be improved. Shaul is awesome at times but a play maker is more important in our team. Next season it looks like we won’t have a ball playing 13 either so I think this highlights the need for a decent pivot at FB
Long term we definitely need an attack coach like Wilde alluded to. I like Radford a lot but if I was in Pearson’s shoes then I’d pay big money for a new coach. If none available then look for an attacking coach as plan B
A new captain wouldn’t go amiss either. My choice would be Manu Ma’u. Taylor could keep his VC. Literally nobody else springs to mind whatsoever... which perhaps says something about the grit and determination we often lack. Nothing wrong with a bit of change'"
Ma'u doesn't strike me as a captain. Shame we couldn't get Thompson he would have been perfect.
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| Yeah I think I’m getting mixed up with Joel Thompson!! I knew one of them had great leadership credentials
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| hulls problem is more than down to indiviuals,we are as good as any team away from home,but we have a serious attitude problem playing at the kc,its also not just this season,but has been the same for a few years now.until we sort it,we will never be consistant enough to do well in the league.what the answer is I dont know,but it needs addressing.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"hulls problem is more than down to indiviuals,we are as good as any team away from home,but we have a serious attitude problem playing at the kc,its also not just this season,but has been the same for a few years now.until we sort it,we will never be consistant enough to do well in the league.what the answer is I dont know,but it needs addressing.'"
Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.'"
If they're that fragile I suggest they consider a career change
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plenty of much more stressful jobs out there
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plenty of much more stressful jobs out there
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.'"
To be fair I think the fans have been pretty supportive, even when we had that horrendous losing run last year. The “poor atmosphere at the KCom” is a cop out to be honest.
If they feel pressure, it’s the price you pay for playing for a big club with passionate fans. Can always go and play for London where the atmosphere might be more forgiving.
They also play for a coach with high expectations who tells it as it is - pretty much like the fanbase!
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Yeh really conclusive that 1200 person survey, complete joke
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Yeh really conclusive that 1200 person survey, complete joke
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"To be fair I think the fans have been pretty supportive, even when we had that horrendous losing run last year. The “poor atmosphere at the KCom” is a cop out to be honest.
If they feel pressure, it’s the price you pay for playing for a big club with passionate fans. Can always go and play for London where the atmosphere might be more forgiving.
They also play for a coach with high expectations who tells it as it is - pretty much like the fanbase!'"
I haven't seen a convincing articulation of why our away form is better than our home form. This is just one suggestion. Understand it may not be a popular one.
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What a load of bull.
That has nothing to do with Hull FC, people who exercise or work in sport!!!!
Really scraping with that excuse.
There are more stressful and dangerous jobs out there.
These guys are earning a living from playing a sport they love.
Lee can't legislate or be held accountable for individual errors but as a collective he is responsible for the attacking and defensive structure and game plan implementation.
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What a load of bull.
That has nothing to do with Hull FC, people who exercise or work in sport!!!!
Really scraping with that excuse.
There are more stressful and dangerous jobs out there.
These guys are earning a living from playing a sport they love.
Lee can't legislate or be held accountable for individual errors but as a collective he is responsible for the attacking and defensive structure and game plan implementation.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"What a load of bull.
That has nothing to do with Hull FC, people who exercise or work in sport!!!!
Really scraping with that excuse.
There are more stressful and dangerous jobs out there.
These guys are earning a living from playing a sport they love.
Lee can't legislate or be held accountable for individual errors but as a collective he is responsible for the attacking and defensive structure and game plan implementation.'"
I don't think anyone is claiming the job of a professional sportsman is the "most stressful or dangerous", that's a red herring. The point we are discussing is that the team can and does perform better away from the KCOM - I imagine our away record is as good as anyone's this season apart from Saints, which shows what we are capable of. It's not outrageous to suggest one hypothesis could be that the atmosphere is less supportive at home. It may not be a popular hypothesis but it's not outrageous.
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| I'd bring in Paul Cooke to be our attacking coach the guy has a great knowledge of the game and was our best attacking player for years. Agree with most points Wildie, I'd like to see Connor at 1 for a few games.
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