My thoughts too
said at the beginning of the season we are a Super League quality prop short.
has shown us already that we are

Go forward is great ( I didn't word it very well) defensively isn't great, particularly dealing with kicks and lacks pace.

We have a good pack and others than give us good go forward, I'd like a winger with more pace if there is a good one available.

Micheals definately will go at the end of the season.
Rawsthorne will be the reserve wing

There is also Naughton, not sure where he fits in.

I know he wants to play for Hull, but not sure he is in Radford plans.

I wouldn't have kept Michaels for this year and would have signed a quota forward.

We're carrying players (again) starting with Ellis, Michaels is no great shakes, we've disposed of expensive players in the past. In his prime Ellis was world class, but we need to move on.

Never been our Captains biggest fan ever since he signed for us have you mate?

I rate Ellis very highly, I wasn't posting when he first signed, just think we could use him on the coaching staff, if he decides to stay.

You never told me not to call you [imate[/i either.

We are certainly aren't carrying Ellis, is on a reduced contract and if he stays it will be reduced again. I'm happy if he plays 20 games a season.

Carrying Ellis?
Heard it all now

"Carrying" is obviously too strong, just frustrated by how much we miss him, but that isn't his fault. Other players need to step up. (Apologies to Gareth if you read the earlier posts)

Let's see if we can give Leeds a game on Friday, we're due to turn in a complete performance.

It was just "too strong", it was bollux.

Didn't take long did it.

I don't get the "didn't take long" comment, Im simply saying we need players to step up whilst he's off the field. Am I wrong?

The reliance on Ellis has been huge, which is testament to what a great player he has been.
Really don't know how we go about replacing him. Or Mini (even though I was unsure about his signing at first).
I remember reading an article when he signed, and his Dad (Ken) told him that if he signed for Hull and brought success, he'd be considered a club legend, which is not always the case at other clubs.
Job done.

We've got to start planning for him to move into coaching and who is replacing his leadership role. It's no coincidence that being without him, Houghton and Kelly caused us problems, I don't have the answer, hopefully Lee and his other coaches do.

As Danny Houghton said, players feel ten times bigger when he's on the pitch with them.

Hopefully Motu has something up his sleeve.

I hope so, he's been a great player.

As was Motu

Can Ellis coach or commentate ?

I think he could do both.

Talks a bit slow for commentary I reckon but he seems to have the right attitude for coaching. Certainly a vocal leader.

I reckon he might go into strength and conditioning

ellis has repeatedly said he doesn't want to coach but wants to get into strength and conditioning

Is he getting any qualifications, some players do as they see their playing days coming to an end. Maybe he feels he has another season in him?

i think sometimes you have to accept that there are going to be certain player who are simply irreplaceable. Ellis is one, peacock and sinfield fall into this bracket too, maybe cunningham and wellens at saints were too in recent times. there are not too many of this type still playing the game. if we were to attempt to replace him, for a couple of seasons i would think simon mannering would be an option if he became available - would fit the bill