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| Quote ="Smiggs"Super Alf'"
Super alf,what a cult figure,but has to be sully and jack harrison.
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| Pepi Brand is a shocking omission. Special mention to Fili Seru.
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| Bruce Ryan.
Clive Sullivan.
Ivor Watts.
Jack Harrison.
My dad saw all these play but Ryan was his favourite. Ryan for me and many others in that post WW2 era was iconic and is my best. Sullivan was great and little Ivor Watts was an outstanding servant of the club. Combination would be Ryan and Sullivan.
Will add that my uncle(mums side) served in WW1 in the same Regiment as Jack Harrison, died in France and was posthumously awarded a Military Medal.
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| Sully is the easy and obvious choice, not only very good but he did it over a long career. I'm struggling to think who else stands out from the rest, plenty who have had good but relatively short careers of the 2 to 5 year length and when you are talking all time you would hope there's more. One real blast from the past who is before just about before everybody's time is Billy Stone, good enough to tour Down Under and score 149 tries for the club in the 1920's - on this information alone he must have been useful. Also someone will have to say it but Tom Briscoe's record stacks up well against at lot of the other names mentioned here.
For personal entertainment value I enjoyed watching Super Taff. However as a cult hero there is nobody to match Super Alf, who looked nothing like a winger is supposed to look but managed to get the job done and at times outdid some illustrious opponents.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red" One real blast from the past who is before just about before everybody's time is Billy Stone, good enough to tour Down Under and score 149 tries for the club in the 1920's - on this information alone he must have been useful.'"
Billy Stone played with Billy Batten as his centre for a few years in the early 20's and was a goalkicker too. The first Challenge Cup final my dad went to was in 1922 at Headingley, when Hull lost 10-9 to Rochdale Hornets. Hull scored in the final minutes in the corner and Biily Stone missed the conversion. He went to another 3 CC finals and never saw them win. I have been to 4(including 2 of his) and never seen them win either.
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| For me Sullivan was the best closely followed by Taffy but if it hadn't have been for broken legs I really believe that Kevin James would have gone on to great things. Difficult isn't it when you've watched for a while. I forgot to mention Fili Seru and Patrick Solliel. There I mentioned them Ha
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| If you look through our long history then Ivor Watts with over 400 appearances and 200 tries has to be in contention as our second highest try scorer. Often overlooked for some reason he was at the Club for over 39 years, still holds the record for most tries in Derby's and had 15 years playing first team rugby for the Club when if he was fit he was an automatic choice. Lovely bloke too. Wilf Rosenberg was the most exciting winger I saw, but I just wish I had seen Bruce Ryan! Clive is the obvious top choice Though.
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| My immediate thoughts were Clive Sullivan and Dane O'Hara and then after reading other posters favourites made me think back to my early days as a supporter when Keith Bowman and little Ivor Watts were on the wings . Two very contrasting types of players. Keith big and strong and Ivor with his mazey runs. When I first saw Van Volanhovan(can't spell ) of Saints I wished we had a winger with that shear pace and then came Clive . Been my all time favourite ever since. What a nice guy as well. We went to see him at work and asked if he could ask the team to sign my lads birthday card. Not a problem. The following week we had the card back signed by all the players and coaches. Super guy.
There are lots of candidates for the other wing but I'm sticking with Dane O'Hara. I think that team with the Kiwis in it was our most exciting team to watch.
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| Its got to be Super Alf and Howard Firth
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| Keep the names coming folks, looks like it's going to be a hard task selecting the 8 nominees, let alone the final 2
Don't forget to vote on the fullback thread if you haven't already
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| Surprised no one has mentioned Tevita. I know he played for us at the lower level, but it was fun while it lasted.
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| Quote ="El Masa Loco"For me Sullivan was the best closely followed by Taffy but if it hadn't have been for broken legs I really believe that Kevin James would have gone on to great things. Difficult isn't it when you've watched for a while. I forgot to mention Fili Seru and Patrick Solliel. There I mentioned them Ha'"
Kevin James snapped his Achilles 3 times,that ended his FC career.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Surprised no one has mentioned Tevita. I know he played for us at the lower level, but it was fun while it lasted.'"
Mainly played centre while at Hull.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Sterling was my favourite. That try away at Doncaster was sensational.'"
Super winger, who only started playing league when he was about 30 and became one of the best wingers in SL. If he signed for Hull or another RL team when he was 18, god knows how good he could have been.
We certainly made a big mistake not keeping him.
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| Quote ="the artist"Keep the names coming folks, looks like it's going to be a hard task selecting the 8 nominees, let alone the final 2
Don't forget to vote on the fullback thread if you haven't already'"
Another very good winger back in the 40's and 50's was an Aussie called Keith Gittoes who played on the other wing to Bruce Ryan. Below are extracts from an article he wrote a couple of years ago in Australia about memories of his Hull days.
" I played for Hull from 1948-1952 and 1956-57.
When I arrived in Hull in Sept.1948 George Watt was club captain and he came to Hull with Bruce Ryan in early 1947 after playing for Australia against Great Britain in 1946. He was a great hooker.
Also with Hull in 1948 were the great Hull stalwarts Freddie Miller and Charlie Booth who both played for England pre-war. Freddie Miller is probably the best kicker of a football I've ever seen. I'll never forget his attempt at a field goal at Batley,from his own 25 yard line which passed by the right upright with plenty of height.
It was with players of the quality of John Whiteley, Colin Hutton, Ivor Watts, Mick Scott, Tommy Harris, Bryan Cooper, Bernard Conway,the Drake boys, that Hull started to make its presence felt.
I have great memories of my time in England and every day I give a thought to Cec(Dickie) Fifield who signed me up for Hull."
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Sterling was my favourite. That try away at Doncaster was sensational.'"
The one against Fev was bad either .
Best & Sullivan get my vote .
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| I would go for Sullivan and Best.
Next choices would be from Prendiville, O'Hara, Firth, Eastwood and Solal.
I feel sorry for Eastwood in a way being overshadowed by so many other classy wingers and if you look at his statistics he remained in the top 10 of try, goal and points scorers - nationally - for years after he finished playing.
Another goal scoring winger worthy of consideration is Matt Crowther, career finished early by injury.
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| Patrick solal. Are you having a laugh.
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| On the subject of wingers a guy called Brian Darlington is listed as playing from 1955-1959 but I can find little information about him. He was a sub even time sprinter who was gym master at my high school for the final 2 years I was there. I did watch him play then but can find little on him in searches. Anybody else remember him or can shed more light?
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| Quote ="hitro the maneater"Patrick solal. Are you having a laugh.'"
Is this a comment on my suggestion or the poster who mentioned "Solleil" earlier?
Your nominations are?
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| In no particular order
Bruce Ryan 59 tries in 84 app, try every 1.43 games
Alf Francis Hulls other pre WWI winger 166 in 247, 1 in 1.49
W Stone 149 in 222, 1 in 1.49
J. Harrison 91 in 101 (FC 150 website shows 101 in 106, these extra 1915 games are not recognised by the RL Record Keepers Club nor the RFL as to be included in official stats. 1 in 1.11 (or 1.05 for the 101 tries)
C. Sullivan 250 in 352, 1 in 1.41
Firstly there's no place for sentimentality,
I. Watts (214/413/1.93) great servant, great winger, brave & on the scoresheet plenty but just not the very very best.
Super Taff (98/215/2.2) weakish defense (okay he was 11st wet through), best step in the business and a decent touch finding boot, just couldn't do it at the top level enough.
Briscoe (90/147/1.63) whilst a beast in attack again frail defensively far too often and positionally STILL naive., amazing try scoring considering he had Yeaman inside of him!
Raynor (106/199/1.8icon_cool.gif, all the skills and I'd have nominated him but can we have a convicted felon on the list?
O'Hara (110/232/2.11), pace to burn, real quality, scored tries aplenty early on for us but just a little short in the very highest company
Best (41/63/1.53), no thanks, again too weak defensively for my liking and always looked off the boil despite his great pace and finishing, he had R.Barnett inside of him, how couldn't you score!
Eastwood (118/293/2.4icon_cool.gif discount his goal scoring & points haul, as a winger he was very good but not top 10 material
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."On the subject of wingers a guy called Brian Darlington is listed as playing from 1955-1959 but I can find little information about him. He was a sub even time sprinter who was gym master at my high school for the final 2 years I was there. I did watch him play then but can find little on him in searches. Anybody else remember him or can shed more light?'"
I can only give you the stats
Debut 7/4/56 against Wakefield at home.
Scored 11 tries in 21 appearances
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| O'Hara
Taffy
Only saw Sullivan in the 82 replay so difficult to say how good he was though possibly the best. Best not in the same league as the two ive mentioned imo
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"In no particular order
Briscoe (90/147/1.63) whilst a beast in attack again frail defensively far too often and positionally STILL naive., amazing try scoring considering he had Briscoe inside of him!'"
Well it is hard to pass to yourself.
Actually I find this a good well argued list. Regarding Raynor, though he obviously will never win any citizen of the year awards, should that count against his actual playing performance? After all if you were picking the best British player of the last 30 years would the most obvious candidate be excluded for their extra curricular activities?
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"Well it is hard to pass to yourself.
Actually I find this a good well argued list. Regarding Raynor, though he obviously will never win any citizen of the year awards, should that count against his actual playing performance? After all if you were picking the best British player of the last 30 years would the most obvious candidate be excluded for their extra curricular activities?'"
OOps, probably would have scored more passing to himself though..lmao.
I was really debating as to include Raynor, on all round ability he really is up there with the best, very quick if not lightning pace, strong, good D, decent in the air, just think he let himself down a few times attitude wise but you could say that about any player. He does get an extra mark in the plus column for tw@atting rat boy tomkins in the Bradford Wigan CC game a while back, didn't hit him hard enough if I'm honest..lol (even tho I think it was a genuine attempt to dislodge the ball )
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