As a neutral what does Westerman bring to your team? Didn't see him much or even his name mentioned much in commentary today and having watched you on Sky this year I cannot say he's stood out at all? Waste of money so far?

so are we..

Western was poor today definitely.

As for the rest of the team we make mistakes cos we're rubbish, but the opposition makes them cos they're in a low gear lol.

Absolutely spot on, it really needs sorting for next year, didnt help with phelps going off early doors.

Needs sorting next year, but signing a 30year old injury prone Aussie isn't going to help matters.

Personally i'd move Horne to fullback permanently and sign a new stand-off and winger.

Unfortunately a bit of the old five drives and a kick again but we had no half backs, Obst wasn't up to his best probably because he's returning from injury and Horny was very good at full back but missed in the halves. Too many dropped balls/missed catches meant we gifted Huddersfield the game. I do think they tried hard though.

lets be honest we did make alot of mistakes and i have no doubts that if we had just kept the ball at times then things could of been diffrent but hudds also made alot of mistakes and took the wrong options at times. fact is they where better then us and as a team there attacking structure is far better then ours

Shiite. Not even sure we were the 2nd best team today

Really really disappointed today. We defended well and physically were slightly better in my view in that department. Our execution with the ball was a disgrace overall and gift wrapped them the game.

They did the basics right...had runners all over,PTB was quicker,chase was very good and just looked faster...not afraid to play off the cuff....amazing what you can do when you get a different coach in...what do we do...make ex coach assistant for a disastarous season.

Not as funny as you claiming we were the best side

Really poor today everywhere. No one deserved man of the match. Half backs nowhere to be seen, didnt see anyone barking any orders, far to many mistakes on 2nd and 3rd tackles, far to few dummy runners. Still things could have been very different, I think we were one pass from going ahead with 7 mins left, I think if Obst 2 foot pass to Turner had been in front of him rather than at his hip we would have had a 2/3 on 1 and probably been ahead for the first time. Not saying we deserved to be ahead, we didnt.
A lot has to be admired about how organised Hudds were. Everytime there was a kick through there were a number of chasers. I hope Mr Agar was taking notes.

Manu did for me.

manu played 80 mins and was absoulote awesome in defence and attack great player that would get in any side in super league and would be devastating in a side like wigan

ha ha,huddersfield in 3rd gear.how does anyone know that.huddersfield probably slightly better,but could have gone either way.these people that only come on here when hull lose.emigrate

The amount of tackles made by Fitzgibbon was brilliant, he seemed to be involved everytime we went up the middle. It was a very scrappy game by both teams, our energy levels seemed to be the only thing to keep us going. Good luck for the rest of the season.

The only thing thats been said on hear with any substance is the poster that said we are not a top 8 side never mind the top 4.

I felt sorry for your pack to be honest, they really stood up and got stuck in but time and time again your backs let them down with silly mistakes and lost possession.

Agreed, best side won.

We should though have been able to execute simple passes and it could have been very different

Great sides don't become bad sides over night (Wire,Giants, Leeds , Saints etc) and bad sides don't become great overnight(FC).

facts : we beat 2 very poor teams at home in Bulls/Drovers and beat a shocking side away in Reds (lost 25-0 to drovers). We then beat 2 poor champ sides in CC. We beat a thoroughly over complacent Wire side and played well. A top 10 side can occasionally do that , that's how sport works.

People on this msg board seem to think that means we will get to a Final or something like that.
We are a side that will finish 10th to 6th despite Agar. One day we will appoint a world class coach.

3 points from a possible 12 against last year's top 5 so far this season

Usual suspects making the same mistakes as the start of the season, poor kicking game. The pseudo false dawn mid season has been the worst thing to happen to the club this year as it ensured Agar's tenure would last at least to the end of the year. Until he goes and we change our tactics, improve our interchanges and stop signing "average" players the club will remain between 8-10th which is simply not good enough.

Our class players; Briscoe, Manu et al, will soon get itchy feet due to the lack of ambition and success at the club.