None taken.

FWIW I thought our second half performance was very poor. Conditions were not great for both teams. I think it's difficult for fans of other teams to make judgement on another team fairly. After all, teams play differently every week. Sometimes they play fantastic and other times not. I wouldn't dream of commenting on Hull's team as I have limited time observing it. I could base judgement after watching you three times this season, but it still wouldn't be a fair assessment. You're opinion based on what you saw is probably fair for that game. We weren't that special I agree.

I don't know who should be more depressed at your statement, Salford fans or Hull fans.

I reckon if you took a random stab in the dark, you would have a more accurate judgement than Mr Radford

Professional foul - holding down after Salford broke downfield. You could see it coming a mile off.

It was an awful game - we never looked like scoring when camped down in their 20 in the first half. Then Chase intercepts and even Lancaster couldn't catch him.

Did anyone hear what Radford said after the game?

Salford were certainly nothing special and there to be taken we were shocking and that 'fight back' as the Salford poster put it, was the same old, too little too late, but that last quarter served to prove how easily Salford could have been beaten if we were anything like a decent team, which we're not, in fact for 60 minutes our performance was a new low in a season of lows!

I don't for one second think that Gentle led anyone up the garden path. From where I'm looking it was he that was stitched up by his support staff and I'm sorry and worried that Pearson couldn't see what was happening and instead endorsed the undermining by solidifying the current regime. In my opinion.

What is certain is that a culture supported on pillars of deceit and betrayal can itself only fail. You reap what you sow and I think that's what we're seeing now.

galea, mcdonnell, miller?

That for me is a main point of concern Wilf in the fact that the team show what they can do but only when the game has gone. Question is why? I still believe AP got rid of Gentle far too early and that he has since appointed the wrong man to compound this.



I agree I don't think Gentle was leading anyone the garden path quite the opposite. He wanted to bring success to the club but was I believe struggling to get some of the players to buy into his plans. This I believe led to him being ousted by the certain players and dare I say it Radford. Now we are in a total mess with a Coach who is totally out of his depth and is clueless. Players who go onto the pitch with what appears to be no real game plan and now look shot as a team.

Yes we have issues in the middle but that's nothing new we've had this since Cooke left but even knowing this Radford has for me not improved any facet of our game. I would have thought he would have at least got the team to make angled & dummy runs and improved our support play to try and counter our lack of creativity but no we just plough the same furrow game after game coming up with Radford pleased with effort but lacking smarts.

McDonnell was a good signing, regardless of the rumoured nepotism. Miller was desperation in response to our scrum-half crisis (and possibly the lad was another who could claim to be led up the garden path?). Galea I'll give you, though

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Incidentally, it was McRae that was responsible for recruitment AND the accompanying salaries, wasn't it? I have no arguments with Legend's allegation of McRae's role in the garden path enticement.

Spot on and while I wouldn't be sorry to see those involved get their come I do fear for the club. Pearson still doesn't know much about RL and needs good advice but seems to listen to the wrong people and make rash decisions.

but but McRae was amazing, so many people told me I was wrong when I said he was arrogant and self important.... the guy was a complete muppet, like Brian Smith, he just spent a lot of money and then cleared off when it suited his own purpose.

At least Smith paved way for silverwear.

yes, and the club nearly went out of existence.

On this occasion it certainly wasn't me who told you you were wrong. I maintained a tactful silence throughout his tenure, with a few wry noddings as events unfolded.

I know it wasn't you, we are both open eyed and open minded, and we see a whole lot more than many of our fellow supporters.

When asked if he could take anything positive from the game, he replied yes we'll be back on the bus going home in half an hour.

More the boards fault for agreeing with Smith.What about the Lloyd era.....that was far worse

Cheers Shauney, another lost half back comes back to haunt us. Hope to heaven Miller doesn't sign for an English club!!!!! Espescially Cas.

Nothing like being gracious in defeat you lot.....very well done...

agree, Lloyd was just an imbecile, but his idiocy cost him a lot of money!

It's not a case of us being bad losers. I wasn't at the game but I listened to it and it seemed like Salford were well worth the win. If this result was taken in isolation I think most would say we were away from home against a decent side and would put it down to Salford being better in the day.

However it's just the latest sub par performance in what has been a lousy season. There is every chance we will finish 12th this year. That's completely unacceptable for a club that finished 6th and won a playoff game the last two seasons and went to Wembley last year.

if bulls hadn't had 6 points deducted I think we would have gone down this year.bulls run in easier than ours.

That would put them on 8 points, still 7 off us with minus 442, so that would never happen.

I could see them beating London,widnes and hull,they play leeds a week before semi final and assuming cas beat widnes,bulls play cas a week before Wembley.were is our next win?