The ‘revised better contracts’ doesn’t have to mean better than the one they are presently on.
It may mean better than the initial offer made on a new contract.

Yes I understand that.

I can remember the time in the late 70`s and 80`s when players were queueing up to sign fo FC when we had that golden era. Players such as Knocker, Bridges, Farrar, Stone and Newlove started the influx which was to lead to our capture of the great David Topliss James Leuluai, Gary Kemble and Dane O'Hara. Fred Ah Koi thought it better to stay in Sydney but changed his mind the following season when he saw how much success was coming our way. This success led to players contacting the club instead of the other way round. Our signing of Peter Sterling went to show how big a club we were. Players then wanted to come here, very few wanted to leave. Those times are about to be repeated I believe, we just have to show patience.

Well he handled it all when he was here as coach, so a fair bit.

Good post.

I believe this will be one of the reasons for a few individuals.

As for not buying into the vision, then they gladdly leave and we can bring someone who does.

Like was said earlier if all those names leave then so be it, if they dont want to play for FC then bye bye
Manu.. class , hate to see him go but if he does then i understand why.
Briscoe.. young fella with a chance to live in Oz for a while and be paid decent cash ... who wouldnt
Ogre.. end of is time shortly anyway
Moa... family comes first
Turner... Family comes first
Mackinnon ...Family comes first
Thats all there is to it, they either sign or they do not and if they do not then we have bags of wonga there to bring in replacements for them
and as for people questioning again the recruitment process ...... think Gaz Ellis!!!!!
AP, Bomber and PG have clearly got a game plan and a time line in which to execute it so lets leave it with them and reap the sunshine when it comes to fruition

I think the Rose tinted glasses need to come off.

Firstly, Bridges was signed in 1982, with only Ah Koui arriving after bridges had hung up his boots.

If you think any class player contacted the club you are sorely mistaken.
And this golden era you talk of?? From when the spending started big in 1978 to when we were forced to sell off big names just to stay afloat in 1987 we managed to win a grand total of 3 major competitions (JPS and CC in '82 and the league in '83). The BBCFT and the Yorkshire cup were secondary trophies at the time

Players came in those days from outside of Hull because our board at the time dug deep and splashed the cash. However three major trophies in nine years is hardly anything to write home about, not when put in comparison with how Wigan dominated in the late '80s/early '90s. Or how Bradford and St Helens took over that mantel for the first 8 years of SL and how Leeds have since dominated.

I think this is where we as a collective of fans over expect on our team. Yes our team of the early '80s was good and played good rugby, but they never dominated the game for any length of time.

Good post

So the 3 finals in 80,83 and 85 have just been forgotten.

I have not read this entire thread but what i find hard to understand is the following. Sorry if its been asked already.
Manu signs when Cas were relegated thinking we would kick on and win silverware. He then extends his stay under Agar. Did he have ambition to win trophies or was he happy to be a big fish in a small pond? He is now offered a contract to play in a team under a decent coach with an owner with genuine ambition. why would he want to go elsewhere? Does he lack ambition.
I accept money talks but the stress of moving family etc from a settled enviroment and the re settling period etc is it worth it? Surely with a salary cap the difference in package cant be that much. or is it?
If he goes elsewhere i would question his desire. Is it that Gentle's methods are too much for some of Agar's boys.

From what i can see nothing has been announced it is those who are allegedly in the know stating it's a definite done deal that Manu will leave, he may well but it's not official yet and until then i won't worry, and if he does decide to move on i trust Gentle to bring in players who will improve the club, many players have left in the past and many will leave in the future but we will always carry on as no player is bigger than the club!!

My thoughts exactly. With the possible exception of Carvell (who I believe we did all we coulf for) I can not recall a single player who has left us and gone on to improve at their new club. (i am talking recent era before anyone trawls through the history books)

Danny Brough, but that is it.

Josh Hodgson is having a good season at Rovers, but still doubt he would get into our side.

I think we disagree there. But i see your point. I think Brough has a decent kicking game but thats it. It could be argued that we have missed that but his journey since leaving us to today has not all been good.

Hodgson was always going to be second to Danny imo.

The more this drags on the more ed off I am with Manu.

It's not like he's having to make a life changing decision, it's a job for the next two to three years. Does it really take more than a month to decide and inform the club?

Brough would improve us massively, he has a lot more to his game now than he did at Hull, you only have to watch the two games against us to see this.

I would withdraw the contract offer to Manu, he is taking the P**s.

I wonder,if this is the reason that some of the OOC players ,wont re-sign.

Didnt O'Meley say 'Agar was one of the best coaches,he's worked with?'

Manu is 32 and we offer BIG 3 year deal , I am NOT convinced full stop , is that why Saints offered 2 ?

Save on his contract and buy younger and develop BUT buy quality and a SL star already , IF we can.

It's like fantasy rugby league on this board

Agree Dave,

McRae said, he's been back & forth to Manu's agent,for over 2 months, still no joy.

Mcrae said it would be resolved by the end of this week so not long to go,although i think we all know hes leaving.

If it was that nailed on he was leaving, it wouldn't be dragging on so long would it? It's obviously a very difficult decision for him.

Clearly it has been a very difficult decision for him, the reasons it may have dragged on is simply the club did not offer him what he felt he was worth initially, hence improved offers etc, the fact it has dragged may imply he has been torn between offers, or indeed waiting for the best offer at this stage of his career.
Uprooting your family, children from school, leaving friends you have made over the years, expecting your partner to move to a different city and lose their job/freinds/social circle is not easy for any-one irrelevant of your career. Eight weeks to make these choices is nothing in comparison to the changes faced by not only a player but the players family.

O'Meley may have said that, what he meant was 'Agar used to let me nip off for a fag when I wanted'

Don't see the difficulty in making the decision whether to go to Saints or not. It's hardly far away, there's no need to uproot his family at all.

I certainly never meant to imply it wasn`t anything but a hard decision,however for both parties cocerned it needs to be resolved ASAP