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| Probably wouldnt have finished in the Top 6 but I cant see us finishing in the Top 6 until we get a decent coach.
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| Quote ="paintman"Check the stats we finished 6th in 2013 with Miller, Mcdonell, Arundel and Pitts'"
Nobody is arguing that, but 3 of those didn't contribute that much to that finish.
Swap Miller for Sneyd and we finish in the bottom 2 IMO.
I think we have a chance of finishing 6th after the super 8s
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"So Wellsy are we saying that the raw material (young kids) is as good as other clubs and in the right numbers but it is the development (coaching, sports science, nutritionists, facilities) where we are falling down?
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I think some of that could be correct, but also environment (which isn't the same as facilities). The younger players need to increasingly be in an environment around higher level players and playing amongst them in order to develop as much as possible. I guess Pearson feels that they cannot achieve that on their own given the playing numbers in Hull.
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| I see Mr Hudgell is doing everything he can to smooth the transition to our new and special relationship along when he said in the Yorkshire Post about us lot "They do have a big club mentality without the results to support that; there is an arrogance about them” Thanks partner!!
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Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I see Mr Hudgell is doing everything he can to smooth the transition to our new and special relationship along when he said in the Yorkshire Post about us lot "They do have a big club mentality without the results to support that; there is an arrogance about them” Thanks partner!!'"
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7363374
"He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon"
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www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7363374
"He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon"
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I see Mr Hudgell is doing everything he can to smooth the transition to our new and special relationship along when he said in the Yorkshire Post about us lot "They do have a big club mentality without the results to support that; there is an arrogance about them” Thanks partner!!'"
hopefully he caries on enough for Pearson to pull the plug
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I see Mr Hudgell is doing everything he can to smooth the transition to our new and special relationship along when he said in the Yorkshire Post about us lot "They do have a big club mentality without the results to support that; there is an arrogance about them” Thanks partner!!'"
Have you ever considered the Academy is purely a business arrangement that will benefit both clubs and the hatred and rivalry at the top end will continue regardless?
Ffs, this is what the fans were worried would stop by 'getting into bed with each other' and now you moan that Hudgell is nailing his colours to the mast.
Hull and Rovers dislike each other, as a club, the fans, even the players to a lesser degree. The Academy is a business venture that will benefit both teams and amateur game of Hull as a whole.
It's happening, you need to get used to it and not lose sight of what is happening on the pitch at first team level.
It makes me laugh, the amount of opposition to this would suggest each Academy side has around 3000 fans per game!!
I am sure the Hull fans will be very pleased when they find out what is happening with the Academy staff wise, team wise etc but for now I would worry less about what Neil Hudgell is saying and more about if and when Hull get into the top 8 and try and enjoy the end to the season.
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| Quote ="Monkey Lover"Have you ever considered the Academy is purely a business arrangement that will benefit both clubs and the hatred and rivalry at the top end will continue regardless?
Ffs, this is what the fans were worried would stop by 'getting into bed with each other' and now you moan that Hudgell is nailing his colours to the mast.
Hull and Rovers dislike each other, as a club, the fans, even the players to a lesser degree. The Academy is a business venture that will benefit both teams and amateur game of Hull as a whole.
It's happening, you need to get used to it and not lose sight of what is happening on the pitch at first team level.
It makes me laugh, the amount of opposition to this would suggest each Academy side has around 3000 fans per game!!
I am sure the Hull fans will be very pleased when they find out what is happening with the Academy staff wise, team wise etc but for now I would worry less about what Neil Hudgell is saying and more about if and when Hull get into the top 8 and try and enjoy the end to the season.'"
Nice & patronising post. Cheers for that.
Fans are understandably questioning the decision to go into a 'business venture' with a man who is morally bankrupt and hates our club with a passion. He sees this as a way to latch onto our resources, drag us down a bit and drag Rovers up a bit.
If you're privy to the workings of the academy other than what has been publicised, as you are trying to make out, spill the beans.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc/super-8s-hold-little-appeal-to-hull-kr-1-7363374
"He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon"'"
The man is despicable, he simply cannot contain his hatred for everything black and white, even when he stands to gain on gigantic level by the academy merger.
Would love AP to come out in response to that and pull the plug on him.
As for saying the top isn't all that, what a crock of ****, easy to say that when that goal appears to be almost unachievable?
I hope we smash them tonight and condemn him and his club to the bottom 4 misery he claims they are better off with.
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| Although I wouldnt p*** on him if he was on fire he does have a valid point that the 8th place team will be playing meaningless games for the best part of a quarter of a season.
He says that the 60-0 defeat at Wigan is the game that will probably cost them.I think hes forgot about the 52 point swing at Newcastle.
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| Quote ="paintman"Although I wouldnt p*** on him if he was on fire he does have a valid point that the 8th place team will be playing meaningless games for the best part of a quarter of a season.
He says that the 60-0 defeat at Wigan is the game that will probably cost them.I think hes forgot about the 52 point swing at Newcastle.'"
I'm not sure. 4th to 8th (as it stands) is only 4 points and is at least achievable to claw back over 7 games.
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| The merger is APs doing, so he won't pull the plug no matter what that toilet says about us in the press, he is only saying it as he knows they will struggle to make the top 8, so he can try & get the fans in to rally around their best squad in SL to date play off in the middle 8. Fools spent to the cap as well.
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| Quote ="paintman"Although I wouldnt p*** on him if he was on fire he does have a valid point that the 8th place team will be playing meaningless games for the best part of a quarter of a season.
He says that the 60-0 defeat at Wigan is the game that will probably cost them.I think hes forgot about the 52 point swing at Newcastle.'"
If that's the case, let's rest all of our big guns tonight and against Wigan so we can have them back to batter Sheffield in the middle 8's? Will be a right laugh....
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"The merger is APs doing, so he won't pull the plug no matter what that toilet says about us in the press, he is only saying it as he knows they will struggle to make the top 8, so he can try & get the fans in to rally around their best squad in SL to date play off in the middle 8. Fools spent to the cap as well.'"
Perhaps if Pearson had consulted with the supporters prior to his 'brainwave' ie suggest a price increase in season passes
to pay for improved coaching facilities etc.. or not renewing contracts for a few players, and promoting youth in their positions, just maybe- we wouldnt have this controversy.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Perhaps if Pearson had consulted with the supporters prior to his 'brainwave' ie suggest a price increase in season passes
to pay for improved coaching facilities etc.. or not renewing contracts for a few players, and promoting youth in their positions, just maybe- we wouldnt have this controversy.'"
I don't agree with it but it's his club, & I only see him trying to bring the best on through the system proposed. Time will tell as new ideas work on paper or theoretically but we will see.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I don't agree with it but it's his club, & I only see him trying to bring the best on through the system proposed. Time will tell as new ideas work on paper or theoreticaly but we will see.'"
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| Rumours on FB that the merger may be off???
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Rumours on FB that the merger may be off???'"
No, people are misunderstanding. Pearson said there'll never be a [icomplete[/i merger of the two clubs. The academy merger is going ahead.
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| I'm not expecting Rovers to get relegated, I think they are the best team in the middle 8s. But say they get to Wembley, and Kelly misses a few games, its entirely possible that they could find themselves facing Leigh in a winner takes all match that in a one off they could lose.
Can the merger possibly go ahead if they are playing in a lower division? I don't see how it can.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Rumours on FB that the merger may be off???'"
Merger is done, people in place, finishing touches being added.
Facebook is generally where I see comments from people who have not managed to work out how to find a message forum such as this one and therefore the content reflects that.
I actually saw one of the leaders of a Facebook Hull/Rovers Rugby group post an inspiring topic yesterday in which he/she spelt the word caused 'corsed' when investigating the cost of the damage done by Hull Fans.
That one post probably sums up the standard of debate on facebook.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I'm not expecting Rovers to get relegated, I think they are the best team in the middle 8s. But say they get to Wembley, and Kelly misses a few games, its entirely possible that they could find themselves facing Leigh in a winner takes all match that in a one off they could lose.
Can the merger possibly go ahead if they are playing in a lower division? I don't see how it can.'"
Why not?
This is a separate entity, nothing to do with where either club plays. It is being funded by both clubs and if Rovers were relegated the last thing they would do is scrap their academy and give up any hope of playing SL again.
Even if Rovers did go down they would be odds on favourites to bounce back with that squad. Youth development is a long term project.
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| Quote ="Monkey Lover"Why not?
This is a separate entity, nothing to do with where either club plays. It is being funded by both clubs and if Rovers were relegated the last thing they would do is scrap their academy and give up any hope of playing SL again.
Even if Rovers did go down they would be odds on favourites to bounce back with that squad. Youth development is a long term project.'"
Would they have the majority of that squad though?
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| Quote ="paintman"Would they have the majority of that squad though?'"
Yeah that's a fair point but they have got most of them contracted for next year, the decent ones anyway, so probably ok.
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| Since when did contracts mean anything.I'd be suprised if there arent get out clauses written into most of them.
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| Quote ="paintman"Since when did contracts mean anything.I'd be suprised if there arent get out clauses written into most of them.'"
Yes maybe so. I would also presume that would free up an awful lot of cash to sign new players, just like Leigh have.
Anyway, who gives a f*** about Rovers?
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