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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Correct.'"
There'll still be some idiot that comes along with the 'I pay my money' or 'I have every right to question him' bollox.
It's sad really, they get suckered in by the media talk pre-season or after good wins, then moan their heads off when we have a dip in form. It's been three games FFS. We could only dream of the type of performances we had against Leeds or Warrington etc. under Agar. Gentle made us competitive at the business end last year, we're enjoying our best cup run since 2008 and we're finally seeing the youngsters at the club progress. But because we're finding it difficult to come up with those Wire & Leeds performances consistently, he's failing?? You just couldn't make it up.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"On field performances, consistency, PTB speed and many other facets of the playing game haven't improved under gentle. The improvements in the youth set are largely down to mcrae from what I hear'"
So you're saying that we had those Wire and Leeds type performances under Agar? We never got close to a 7/8 run last season, so how's that not improving consistency? McRae does f*** all pal, that's why he won't be here next year.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So you're saying that we had those Wire and Leeds type performances under Agar? We never got close to a 7/8 run last season, so how's that not improving consistency? McRae does f*** all pal, that's why he won't be here next year.'"
You do know you're gonna be in big trouble if RA's team beat us to the play-offs?
It's possible unless we get our fooking act together.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You do know you're gonna be in big trouble if RA's team beat us to the play-offs?
It's possible unless we get our fooking act together.'"
Oh I know how possible it is, I've also just noticed we did go 7/8 last season too!
Tbh mate, I'm just getting annoyed at some fans who just go OTT, in both directions. He's doing a good job in general, there's always going to be bumps along the way.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Oh I know how possible it is, I've also just noticed we did go 7/8 last season too!
Tbh mate, I'm just getting annoyed at some fans who just go OTT, in both directions.'"
Well I was full of hope at the start of season without being OTT.
I backed us heavily to finish above Rovers (looking dodgy now).
Also backed us to finish 5th or better. (looking very very very dodgy now.
Three games ago we were going well and now suddenly we look like a bunch of amateurs, unable to even do the basics.
That's what people find frustrating.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Oh I know how possible it is, I've also just noticed we did go 7/8 last season too!
Tbh mate, I'm just getting annoyed at some fans who just go OTT, in both directions. He's doing a good job in general, there's always going to be bumps along the way.'"
Dont you think some fans get annoyed at fans like you who are happy to watch the club just stumble along promising the world but never delivering? And where do people get this idea that hes doing a good job? Hes had two near on two years at this and yes weve blooded a few youngsters but none are his signings and all where employed by the club before he came. His signings - Johnson, Arundel, Crookes are all looking poor and even Ellis is not really showing any outstanding form but like a Rhino fan said earlier, both Leeds and Wests have had the best out of him, now hes knackered. Hes got a bit of a mates club going on in Galea whos finished and Mcdonnell whos very average but on good contracts. The first nine games of the season we was appauling, we had a bit of a run and had two good wins then its fallen apart again. Theres no consistency in performances and people are getting fed up not just of Gentle but of the club. My dad has a season ticket and sits in the middle of east stand and after the Wakey game on monday some of the older supporters around him said thats another season gone and they dont seen anything ever changing whilst theyre alive and they are seriously thinking enough is enough.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Dont you think some fans get annoyed at fans like you who are happy to watch the club just stumble along promising the world but never delivering? And where do people get this idea that hes doing a good job? Hes had two near on two years at this and yes weve blooded a few youngsters but none are his signings and all where employed by the club before he came. His signings - Johnson, Arundel, Crookes are all looking poor and even Ellis is not really showing any outstanding form but like a Rhino fan said earlier, both Leeds and Wests have had the best out of him, now hes knackered. Hes got a bit of a mates club going on in Galea whos finished and Mcdonnell whos very average but on good contracts. The first nine games of the season we was appauling, we had a bit of a run and had two good wins then its fallen apart again. Theres no consistency in performances and people are getting fed up not just of Gentle but of the club. My dad has a season ticket and sits in the middle of east stand and after the Wakey game on monday some of the older supporters around him said thats another season gone and they dont seen anything ever changing whilst theyre alive and they are seriously thinking enough is enough.'"
this is my biggest concern, we've already had the 'new owners, new coach, new era' stuff and that won't work again. Also at the game on Monday the people leaving early and booing weren't just the usual hotheads overreacting, it was also a lot of fans who sat near us for every season at the KC.
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| That's because their all misarable s like you.
When we're winning you and some others hardly post, some fans have forgot why they go to watch the rl.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Dont you think some fans get annoyed at fans like you who are happy to watch the club just stumble along promising the world but never delivering? '"
Do you not get it Seb? By saying like this you're just confirming that you're one of the idiots buying everything the press print. What do you want the club to say? Take a look at the whole thing and make your own assessment on things. We were only ever a 5th or 6th placed team, and as far as I'm aware the season isn't over yet.
Quote ="Sebasteeno"And where do people get this idea that hes doing a good job? Hes had two near on two years at this and yes weve blooded a few youngsters but none are his signings and all where employed by the club before he came. His signings Johnson, Arundel, Crookes are all looking poor and even Ellis is not really showing any outstanding form but like a Rhino fan said earlier, both Leeds and Wests have had the best out of him, now hes knackered.'"
Absolutely ing clueless, Ellis finished? That's just how stupid you are. Nobody ever claimed that his signings were the finished article, the bloke himself said he wanted young players he could coach, he's proved he can do it with Crooks, Lineham & Green. People were patting Gentle on the back for his work with the youngsters a few weeks back, now it's just 'blooding a few youngsters'. Fickle.
Quote ="Sebasteeno"Hes got a bit of a mates club going on in Galea whos finished and Mcdonnell whos very average but on good contracts. The first nine games of the season we was appauling, we had a bit of a run and had two good wins then its fallen apart again. Theres no consistency in performances and people are getting fed up not just of Gentle but of the club. My dad has a season ticket and sits in the middle of east stand and after the Wakey game on monday some of the older supporters around him said thats another season gone and they dont seen anything ever changing whilst theyre alive and they are seriously thinking enough is enough.'"
Mates club? Oh do me a favour you big drama queen, Galea had his best game for us on Monday and McDonnell has been in our top three players of the year.
You're a doom merchant, and a pi$$ poor troll one at that. Give your head a bang and get a grip.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So you're saying that we had those Wire and Leeds type performances under Agar? We never got close to a 7/8 run last season, so how's that not improving consistency? McRae does f*** all pal, that's why he won't be here next year.'"
I know you live in a simplistic world but to claim everything has improved under gentle is a dog shiit statement even by your standards. Things aren't as bad as they were under agar overall (Hard to imagine that any coach couldn't have brought about improvements from that idiot) but they're far from good and the team has under performed for more games than it has performed as well as it should. That you can only quote me 2 examples out of the 20 or so games we've played proves my point.
Now gentle may go on to prove to be a good coach but he certainly isn't proving it currently
mcrea is on a fat salary and has done what he was brought in to do, which is why he won't be here next season "pal"
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Oh I know how possible it is, I've also just noticed we did go 7/8 last season too!
Tbh mate, I'm just getting annoyed at some fans who just go OTT, in both directions. He's doing a good job in general, there's always going to be bumps along the way.'"
Do you believe he is consistently getting the best out of the players at his disposal?
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| Out of interest I Wonder what you guys with the "Black and White" tinted spectacles will think if we keep playing badly and miss out on top 8??
I love Hull FC and I support it with pride and passion but it is my prerogative to decide wether I think Gentle is doing a good job, and at this moment in time I don't think he is. And ill stress this again... It's NOT the loses, it's how poorly we are consistently playing.
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| Gentle deserves until at least the middle of next season but if we're as inconsistent then as we are now then I doubt he's the man to lead us to the promised land
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| Quote ="BIGARR"Out of interest I Wonder what you guys with the "Black and White" tinted spectacles will think if we keep playing badly and miss out on top 8??
I love Hull FC and I support it with pride and passion but it is my prerogative to decide wether I think Gentle is doing a good job, and at this moment in time I don't think he is. And ill stress this again... It's NOT the loses, it's how poorly we are consistently playing.'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Gentle deserves until at least the middle of next season but if we're as inconsistent then as we are now then I doubt he's the man to lead us to the promised land'"
And thats what he will probably get and i hope that things change and he proves that he is the coach we need but judging by the previous two years and having basically the same squad at his disposal as this year i dont see things changing a great deal and that would also mean another season gone
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| 3 games ago gentle was the best thing since sliced bread,now hes rubbish, i am really upset about the last 3 losses and couldnt sleep mon night as was so annoyed, but we can still finnish top 5 and just maybe topple cats in the cup, some on here like seb are sad trolls who only come on when we get beat and have never anything positive to say about fc,think the next few games are important for gentle and i for one hope we can turn it around,
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| Quote ="hull2524"3 games ago gentle was the best thing since sliced bread,now hes rubbish, i am really upset about the last 3 losses and couldnt sleep mon night as was so annoyed, but we can still finnish top 5 and just maybe topple cats in the cup, some on here like seb are sad trolls who only come on when we get beat and have never anything positive to say about fc,think the next few games are important for gentle and i for one hope we can turn it around,'"
Your a tad obsessed with me im starting to get a little worried
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I know you live in a simplistic world but to claim everything has improved under gentle is a dog shiit statement even by your standards. Things aren't as bad as they were under agar overall (Hard to imagine that any coach couldn't have brought about improvements from that idiot) but they're far from good and the team has under performed for more games than it has performed as well as it should. That you can only quote me 2 examples out of the 20 or so games we've played proves my point.
Now gentle may go on to prove to be a good coach but he certainly isn't proving it currently
mcrea is on a fat salary and has done what he was brought in to do, which is why he won't be here next season "pal"'"
Competitive in the play-offs last year,
Best cup run since 2008,
Competitive and beating the supposed top 4 (Wigan aside),
Lineham, Crooks & Green,
Capture of Gareth Ellis,
Massive improvements in defensive structure,
Improvements in strength & conditioning (ask any of the players).
Three losses after what was a very impressive run, and people are questioning him. And you think my worlds simplistic?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Do you believe he is consistently getting the best out of the players at his disposal?'"
No, but neither does McDermott and he's won the damn thing the last two years. Wigan have lost two on the bounce, Wire have had a slump, all teams suffer them.
We had a poor start to the season, not helped by disruption in the halves, that is compounding what's happening now and clouding people's judgement.
You yourself have said at the beginning of the season that we're not top 4 yet, and now it's come to fruition you're moaning about it. Gentle got it right back end of last season, why can't he this year?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Competitive in the play-offs last year,
Best cup run since 2008,
Competitive and beating the supposed top 4 (Wigan aside),
Lineham, Crooks & Green,
Capture of Gareth Ellis,
Massive improvements in defensive structure,
Improvements in strength & conditioning (ask any of the players).
Three losses after what was a very impressive run, and people are questioning him. And you think my worlds simplistic?'"
Your world is obviously black and white any you can only see improvement. I see some improvement but also some worrying stagnation.
Interesting choices of measures of improvement.
Best cup run since 2008. You mean we've managed to finally beat a SL side? Wakey at home is hardly a measure of success
Competitive with the top 4 sides? Lose on sunday and we'll probably take 4 points from a potential 16 - hardly competitive IMO.
Capture of gareth ellis - We made him the best financial offer of any of the teams he would have considered signing for
Massive improvement in defensive structure? Yet we've shipped nearly 90 points in 3 games, including 2 against sides outside the top 8. Almost agaresque
Like I said, there have been improvements but your claim that everything under gentle's control has improved is dog shiit as I said
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"No, but neither does McDermott and he's won the damn thing the last two years. Wigan have lost two on the bounce, Wire have had a slump, all teams suffer them.
We had a poor start to the season, not helped by disruption in the halves, that is compounding what's happening now and clouding people's judgement.
You yourself have said at the beginning of the season that we're not top 4 yet, and now it's come to fruition you're moaning about it. Gentle got it right back end of last season, why can't he this year?'"
I'm "moaning" about the lack of consistency and seeming inability to get the best out of his players regularly. If he'd won a couple of SL titles or the odd challenge cup or 3 I'd maybe consider it a blip but for me the blips seem to be the good performances, not the average or poor ones. We're not a top 4 team, but then neither should we be a 7th or 8th IMO.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm "moaning" about the lack of consistency and seeming inability to get the best out of his players regularly. If he'd won a couple of SL titles or the odd challenge cup or 3 I'd maybe consider it a blip but for me the blips seem to be the good performances, not the average or poor ones. We're not a top 4 team, but then neither should we be a 7th or 8th IMO.'"
But you're talking as though the seasons over, there's still a very good chance that we'll finish 5th.
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| Quote ="BIGARR"Out of interest I Wonder what you guys with the "Black and White" tinted spectacles will think if we keep playing badly and miss out on top 8?? '"
Personally, i that happens i will question what is going on, especially considering that by this time last year we gone from having McKinnon at FB with Horne and Seymour in the halves to Horne at FB Heremaia playing in the halves for most of the time due to limited options and bringing McGoldgrick in to the team to end up partnering in the halves after Gentle tried him at FB. add getting rid of others and bringing others in it was a bit of an unsettled squad and still getting a home play off game, winning well (yes Huddersield were poor by this time but the manner of the performance was uneniable) gave a decent showing at Wire.
This year, although we have had injuries to key players its what you would call a settled squad compared to last year and looking at us, without sounding big headed, we are a play off team but we still got to earn that place and if we don't i will be very disappointed and not making the play offs would be taking a big step backwards
Whether or not you think i have 'Black and White' tinited spectacles you can be judge of that but this is my thoughts, I did stay to the end of the game but as soon as the hooter went i was out of there, unlike other games like Wigan where i felt the team earned the applause of the fans
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"But you're talking as though the seasons over, there's still a very good chance that we'll finish 5th.'"
There's a small chance if we see a drastic improvement in our form
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