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| Quote ="Young Faithfull"When was that.'"
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| Quote ="Ellam"Lauaki was harshly treated but who cares we won and Rovers and cheap shot Newton lost.
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I care because the dobbins reporter in the daily mail along with Galea mention it continously that Lauaki should have been sinbinned.
Then the first a neighbour who is a dobbin mentions is the same thing.
None of them noticed the provocation Lauaki had to put up with
Cockayne's elbow on him on the ground was the sort of thing we have come to expect from that thug. But Silverwood didn't see it
Newton clearly marks Lauaki's face whilst he is on the ground. None of those things are Rugby League in my eyes.
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| Quote ="davey37"I care because the dobbins reporter in the daily mail along with Galea mention it continously that Lauaki should have been sinbinned.
Then the first a neighbour who is a dobbin mentions is the same thing.
None of them noticed the provocation Lauaki had to put up with
Cockayne's elbow on him on the ground was the sort of thing we have come to expect from that thug. But Silverwood didn't see it
Newton clearly marks Lauaki's face whilst he is on the ground. None of those things are Rugby League in my eyes.'"
Silverwood did see Cockaynes elbow into Lauaki's head, he said it was 'accidental'. You can hear him on the commentary when talking to long just after it happened and he'd given the penalty
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"Silverwood did see Cockaynes elbow into Lauaki's head, he said it was 'accidental'. You can hear him on the commentary when talking to long just after it happened and he'd given the penalty'"
You don't hear him refer to the elbow when saying that do you?
There was so much going on in that tackle that i thought he was referring to something else.
The force used with the elbow meant it can't of been accidental.
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| I didnt me I wasn't bothered then Red and White c**ts will get theres, they will struggle if they rely on Clinton and there tripe of a pack. Lauaki will get better and better just needs to control it at times and use it in the right channels.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So Cockend and Newton should have been binned for elbow and Headrubbing as well then...Murrell for repeatadly tackling players off the ball and Newton for being the cheap-shot merchant he is with his cowardly attack on back turned to him Tansey and then his booty fell out when Fitz went for him....i ve had harder dumps than Newton after a curry.'"
Do you think any of these elbows and any of this headrubbing you mention are going to draw any extra attention?
Dummy runners generally get hit and any player being in our defensive line is fair game to cop a shot from a defender IMO.
Similar to O'Meley last week v Salford, you remember, that cheap shot on Jowitt. Cashmere showed he never liked the challenge and O'Meley backed off like the cheap shot coward he is!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Do you think any of these elbows and any of this headrubbing you mention are going to draw any extra attention?
Dummy runners generally get hit and any player being in our defensive line is fair game to cop a shot from a defender IMO.
Similar to O'Meley last week v Salford, you remember, that cheap shot on Jowitt. Cashmere showed he never liked the challenge and O'Meley backed off like the cheap shot coward he is!'"
but not according to the rules.
again your opinion is balls.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"but not according to the rules.
again your opinion is balls.'"
But yours is once again right, obviously by this disciplinary hearing coming up we will surely find out.
You say this quiet a bit and then fail to give any explanation, again.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"But yours is once again right, obviously by this disciplinary hearing coming up we will surely find out.'"
yes i am right.
i'd put about as much faith in the disciplinary commitee then i would with you posting any relevence.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"yes i am right.
i'd put about as much faith in the disciplinary commitee then i would with you posting any relevence.'"
Only in your head and on this board I'm afraid!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Only in your head and on this board I'm afraid!
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well what relevence have you posted on a thread about lauaki?
all youve done is brought up o'meley, who has his own thread, then you say its fair game for a dummy runner to be taken out.
you also suggest that newtons 'head rubbing' and cockayne elbow was fair, due to them not getting any attention, then expect people to discuss things with you.
why dont you go on your board and discuss your coaches tactics?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"well what relevence have you posted on a thread about lauaki?
all youve done is brought up o'meley, who has his own thread, then you say its fair game for a dummy runner to be taken out.
you also suggest that newtons 'head rubbing' and cockayne elbow was fair, due to them not getting any attention, then expect people to discuss things with you.
why dont you go on your board and discuss your coaches tactics?'"
Luaki should have been binned for throwing at least 3 punches on separate occasions! Very lucky to have stayed on the pitch, or is throwing punches acceptable now?
O'Meley has been a cheap shot merchant for a long time.
Teams have using the same tactics for a long time, getting the head in close to an opponent when wrestling on the floor, its nothing new. Leeds have been frighteningly good at it for a long time.
Nothing in the Cockayne challenge, he was trying to get to his feet, he had a player underneath him and a player on top interfering.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Luaki should have been binned for throwing at least 3 punches on separate occasions! Very lucky to have stayed on the pitch, or is throwing punches acceptable now?
O'Meley has been a cheap shot merchant for a long time.
Teams have using the same tactics for a long time, getting the head in close to an opponent when wrestling on the floor, its nothing new. Leeds have been frighteningly good at it for a long time.
Nothing in the Cockayne challenge, he was trying to get to his feet, he had a player underneath him and a player on top interfering.'"
where have i said throwing punches is acceptable?
i find it funny your saying the grapple tackles ok because its been around for a long time but o'meleys wrong for been a cheap shot merchant for a long time.
nothing cockaynes elbow? balls.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Luaki should have been binned for throwing at least 3 punches on separate occasions! Very lucky to have stayed on the pitch, or is throwing punches acceptable now?
O'Meley has been a cheap shot merchant for a long time.
Teams have using the same tactics for a long time, getting the head in close to an opponent when wrestling on the floor, its nothing new. Leeds have been frighteningly good at it for a long time.
Nothing in the Cockayne challenge, he was trying to get to his feet, he had a player underneath him and a player on top interfering.'"
Those in glasshouses eh?.... Hull FC the fairplay team of the month
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| Quote ="Sheldon"where have i said throwing punches is acceptable?
i find it funny your saying the grapple tackles ok because its been around for a long time but o'meleys wrong for been a cheap shot merchant for a long time.
nothing cockaynes elbow? balls.'"
You wanted me to talk about Luaki and not O'Meley, so please tell us, should he have been sin binned or not?
Never said a grapple tackle was ok at all, I said teams have been using the tactic of getting a defenders head in close to an opponents head on the floor in a tackle has been used for a long time. Or is this the first time you have seen such technique?
O'Meley is a cheap shot merchant!
No question about it, he did catch Luaki with his elbow, you wont get an argument off me for that but intentional, you never now, the ref never thought it was anything more and I think he was right on top of the situation.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"=#BF0000You wanted me to talk about Luaki and not O'Meley, so please tell us, should he have been sin binned or not?
Never said a grapple tackle was ok at all, I said teams have been using the tactic of getting a defenders head in close to an opponents head on the floor in a tackle has been used for a long time. Or is this the first time you have seen such technique?
=#BF0000O'Meley is a cheap shot merchant!
No question about it, he did catch Luaki with his elbow, you wont get an argument off me for that but intentional, you never now, the ref never thought it was anything more and I think he was right on top of the situation.'"
your still trying to say newtons tackle was ok? that short of tackle is not ok.
Lauaki should have been binned yes.
cockayne should have seen red and newton binned, if the ref had have made the call would lauaki reacted this way?
lets face it the ref was close to alot like hornes ball steal and knock on, murrells knock on, newtons head rub, and numerous over things he missed.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"your still trying to say newtons tackle was ok? that short of tackle is not ok.
Lauaki should have been binned yes.
cockayne should have seen red and newton binned, if the ref had have made the call would lauaki reacted this way?
lets face it the ref was close to alot like hornes ball steal and knock on, murrells knock on, newtons head rub, and numerous over things he missed.'"
Look back on my previous posts regarding Newtons challenge.
Thank you.
Cockayne see red, no chance and Newton in the bin for a push in the back, no chance. Luaki shouldn't have retaliated, simple as but lucky for him, he was never penalised properly for throwing punches.
I agreed with Paul M's post yesterday:
Quote ="PAUL M"Personally I don't have too many issues with the way the Rovers pack played, both sides out some big hits in and both side lived on the edge at times, that's just rugby league.
Hame should not have reacted but he did have 3/4 players all trying to get to his head which is where the referee failed to do his job.
Boths packs were good yesterday, a good hard game!'"
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Look back on my previous posts regarding Newtons challenge.
Thank you.
Cockayne see red, no chance and Newton in the bin for a push in the back, no chance. Luaki shouldn't have retaliated, simple as but lucky for him, he was never penalised properly for throwing punches.
I agreed with Paul M's post yesterday:
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who was on about the 'push' in the back?
while retaliation in the game is out lawed sometimes refs give it some lee way because in some events natural reaction takes over.
if some one was choking you you wouldn't lay there till they've finished or the ref tells them to stop, youd react.
the same when some one plants a elbow on your head.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"if some one was choking you you wouldn't lay there till they've finished or the ref tells them to stop, youd react.
the same when some one plants a elbow on your head.'"
And Luaki's reactions as you have already said deserved a sin binning.
You see these things every week in every single match but its being highlighted due to the nature of the game.
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| Rupert Pumpkin said
And Luaki's reactions as you have already said deserved a sin binning
The Law says you have the right to defend yourself end of.
Oh and it over rules the RL rules at all times.
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"Silverwood did see Cockaynes elbow into Lauaki's head, he said it was 'accidental'. You can hear him on the commentary when talking to long just after it happened and he'd given the penalty'"
I don't think he saw it. His words were 'if there's any contact with the head, it's accidental'. To me, that dismissive attitude isn't right. It was bordering on, 'you're a big lad so just deal with whatever treatment you get, regardless of the legality'.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And Luaki's reactions as you have already said deserved a sin binning.
You see these things every week in every single match but its being highlighted due to the nature of the game.'"
well if you see them every week that's fine. Theres murders and rapes every week should we accept them?
In fact don't answer that my opinion of you is low as it is.
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| Double standards here methinks. Plenty of people would have been applauding lauaki if he'd stuck one on newton or cockayne
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"You wanted me to talk about Luaki and not O'Meley, so please tell us, should he have been sin binned or not?'"
Of course not, you daft f[size=100u[/sizeck. He should've been given three penalties, but Silverwood was too busy practising the more difficult of his nal of signals in case he needed to spring them out unnecessarily later on to notice the elbows, head-butts and constant attacks to the head of Lauaki.
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No question about it, he did catch Luaki with his elbow, you wont get an argument off me for that but intentional, you never now, the ref never thought it was anything more and I think he was right on top of the situation.'"
He was probably scared to give the penalty in case Cockayne decided to push him to the ground and kick him in the head until it was purely a matter of luck whether or not he survived. You can be pretty certain that everything even bordering on illegal that Cockayne does is deliberate. More than that, he intended to do more damage, but he's too stupid to know how.
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