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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"He'll still be here won't he ?? Unlikely that many clubs will be waiting to sign him and how much will our club be prepared to offer him in order to "pay him off" ???'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"where do you think kingy will end up?'" Rehab!!
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| i do know his contract will not be renewed that is fact whether or not he gets paid of this season will have to wait and see
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| Quote ="wolfie"where do you think kingy will end up?'"
cant see him playing for anyone else
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| Quote ="Hutchie"cant see him playing for anyone else'"
Me niether.
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| I think it all depends on our coaching set up come decision time. Bearing in mind that only 50% of his salary counts towards the cap. Must also be cheap seen as the club have taken his match bonuses away.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"I think it all depends on our coaching set up come decision time. Bearing in mind that only 50% of his salary counts towards the cap. Must also be cheap seen as the club have taken his match bonuses away.'"
I don't know King's salary, but the long service concession is a £50,000 maximum per club and also includes Richard Horne.
Incidentally, next season is Kirk Yeaman's 10th season so he would be included under this ruling from 2011 (his 11th season). I'm not sure if Hull still held Gareth Raynor's registration during his spell at Leicester, if so he would also fall under the ruling from 2011 (if still at the club).
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"I think it all depends on our coaching set up come decision time. Bearing in mind that only 50% of his salary counts towards the cap. Must also be cheap seen as the club have taken his match bonuses away.'"
Nope. There's a maximum concession of £50k split between him an Horne on a pro-rata basis, so the vast majority is taken up by savings on Horne's salary.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"I think it all depends on our coaching set up come decision time. Bearing in mind that only 50% of his salary counts towards the cap. Must also be cheap seen as the club have taken his match bonuses away.'"
Not a big expense this year.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Nope. There's a maximum concession of £50k split between him an Horne on a pro-rata basis, so the vast majority is taken up by savings on Horne's salary.'"
I saw the explanation of this and agree.
However, my addled memory bank is telling me I have read somewhere of a rule change for this, on the basis of promoting and benefitting loyalty? Has anyone else seen this? I think it ended up being half of each players salary would not count?
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I saw the explanation of this and agree.
However, my addled memory bank is telling me I have read somewhere of a rule change for this, on the basis of promoting and benefitting loyalty? Has anyone else seen this? I think it ended up being half of each players salary would not count?'"
All detailed in the RFL's Operational Rules [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Section%20E.pdfhere[/url (PDF file). The long service concession is explained in section 5.8-5.9.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"He'll still be here won't he ?? Unlikely that many clubs will be waiting to sign him and how much will our club be prepared to offer him in order to "pay him off" ???'"
We'll get rid and he will try and get a new club or may possibly call it a day. Either way I would be very surprised to see him here.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We'll get rid and he will try and get a new club or may possibly call it a day. Either way I would be very surprised to see him here.'"
I hope you're right but the main gauge of whether our pack is strong for next season for me will be if Radford is consistently NOT IN IT !!!
Tickle, King, Radford, Dowes all gone will be a very good start to the season 2010 !!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I hope you're right but the main gauge of whether our pack is strong for next season for me will be if Radford is consistently NOT IN IT !!!
Tickle, King, Radford, Dowes all gone will be a very good start to the season 2010 !!'"
I think that is harsh on Dowes personally, he has struggled because of playing too much, nothing more.
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| Quote ="Standee"I think that is harsh on Dowes personally, he has struggled because of playing too much, nothing more.'"
He's been average for the past 2 seasons and wont be one of our first choice 4 props next season. We shouldnt carry the likes of Dowes, King, Thacks, Radford, Tickle, G Horne etc if we aim to be a top 3 club.
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| Quote ="Standee"I think that is harsh on Dowes personally, he has struggled because of playing too much, nothing more.'"
Dowes would be the one of those four that I'd keep if only three were to go but, for me, he doesn't offer anything but effort.
He is not big enough, not aggressive enough and has no go-forward. He does his best and gives 100% but just not good enough for me.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He's been average for the past 2 seasons and wont be one of our first choice 4 props next season. We shouldnt carry the likes of Dowes, King, Thacks, Radford, Tickle, G Horne etc if we aim to be a top 3 club.'"
Do we want to be a top 3 club, could have fooled me by signing over the hill players!
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| Radford, King, Dowes, Tickle, Thackray, G Horne, Thorman, Motu, Lee.
If none of those are in our starting 17 next season, we will probably have a squad that can make the top three.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Radford, King, Dowes, Tickle, Thackray, G Horne, Thorman, Motu, Lee.
If none of those are in our starting 17 next season, we will probably have a squad that can make the top three.'"
Best add Thorman to that list, just in case anyne has a brain fart!
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| Quote ="Standee"Do we want to be a top 3 club, could have fooled me by signing over the hill players!'"
The players we have signed are perfect to attain the balance of the squad for me. FItz and Long are exactly what weve been missing. We have the youth coming through but then not the senior players currently to attain the right balance of experience and youthful enthusiasm etc.
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| Quote ="Standee"Do we want to be a top 3 club, could have fooled me by signing over the hill players!'"
You have to get the balance right, and I wouldn't describe any of our signings as 'over the hill' TBH.
The problem is that due to poor recruitment and retention we have an awful lot of things that need fixing. You can't do that all in one season, and IMO we've at least started in the right place and with the right types of players.
Now we just need a decent coach.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Radford, King, Dowes, Tickle, Thackray, G Horne, Thorman, Motu, Lee.
If none of those are in our starting 17 next season, we will probably have a squad that can make the top three.'"
Lee is the only one i'd keep.
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| Quote ="Standee"Do we want to be a top 3 club, could have fooled me by signing over the hill players!'"
Bit harsh on Tansey and o'meley
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| Another big forward and a top class centre and we shouldn't be far away from the top three !! Unless Agar is rubbish after all ????
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Another big forward and a top class centre and we shouldn't be far away from the top three !! Unless Agar is rubbish after all ????'"
Would let Hall have a go in his natural posistion.
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