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| Quote ="Kosh"It used to be. In fact it used to get regular comments on here. Practice and experience have improved his timing and technique. No reason why Hall might not improve similarly.'"
Im sure Hall can just dont think Bradford are the team to test this as orford will exploit this weakness. I would put him at centre against Salford and Rovers.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You keep saying this, but I can't say I recall anyone referring to him as a superstar.
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I didn't mean you particularly, but I have heard him described on here as a 'future international', 'one of the most exciting talents in the competition', and 'dangerous every time he gets the ball'. All of these descriptions overstate just how good Hall is, IMO.
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| Quote ="Holty"Im sure Hall can just dont think Bradford are the team to test this as orford will exploit this weakness. I would put him at centre against Salford and Rovers.'"
I think Orford is more likely to exploit our chronic weakness against the high ball on the other wing TBH.
Mind you If we defend like we did on Friday he'll have an ample choice of weaknesses to aim at. i
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think Orford is more likely to exploit our chronic weakness against the high ball on the other wing TBH.
Mind you If we defend like we did on Friday he'll have an ample choice of weaknesses to aim at.
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And todays massive overstatement goes to ....................
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| [url=http://zeta.ecommzone.com/LZ/HULLFC/001HJJ/06903eeba9602ae8616e3311c947d43947/story1.htmGrapevine[/url
Craig Hall is the man to miss out this week, having played in every game so far this season, but Agar says the decision isn’t a reflection on him.
“Craig is not a natural winger, if there is a place where we probably didn’t need injuries it was our back three, but Craig has done a great job for us while he has had to play there,” said Agar.
“But we feel that Calders started the season pretty well, he is an experienced winger and with Richard Whiting in very good form, he has probably done enough to get the nod over Craig.”
All fair enough I think. Public praise for Hall and fair reason for this week's selection. If Whiting has a mare I'm sure Hall will be in contention next week. No sign of any scapegoating. Some overreaction on here perhaps ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC" No sign of any scapegoating. Some overreaction on here perhaps ?'"
On here? Give over.
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| Has Horne been confirmed as out injured yet?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Has Horne been confirmed as out injured yet?'"
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"On here? Give over.'"
I think on top of the 'normal' level of knee-jerkery associated with a messageboard you have people who still have lingering concerns from last season. One of these is this theory that Agar has favourites who he will play regardless of form, even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever. So whenever any slightly controversial selection happens (and there's always going to be some as fans have favourites as well) then the same accusation pops up.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Been out for a couple of weeks hasn't he?'"
I'll assume you mean the Horne that plays for Hudds but why you would think I was talking about a Hudds player on the 19 man squad thread on the FC board I have no idea.
Has R.Horne (the stand out player in the FC team for the last 2 weeks) been confirmed as out injured yet?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think on top of the 'normal' level of knee-jerkery associated with a messageboard you have people who still have lingering concerns from last season. One of these is this theory that Agar has favourites who he will play regardless of form, even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever. So whenever any slightly controversial selection happens (and there's always going to be some as fans have favourites as well) then the same accusation pops up.'"
*cough* Radford *cough*
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| Quote ="Robbo4"*cough* Radford *cough*'"
Does he have an aunt from Fev
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| Quote ="Robbo4"*cough* Radford *cough*'"
Last season there was hardly much of an opportunity to drop him because of injuries. This season he's been going well up until the Wigan game.
I agree it might be interesting to see if he plays against Bradford after his poor display last week, but I still find it hard to credit that Agar would take risks with his job by playing someone he knows is out of form just because he's a 'favourite'.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think on top of the 'normal' level of knee-jerkery associated with a messageboard you have people who still have lingering concerns from last season. One of these is this theory that Agar has favourites who he will play regardless of form, even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever. So whenever any slightly controversial selection happens (and there's always going to be some as fans have favourites as well) then the same accusation pops up.'"
I could see why it would pop up if Whiting's form had been poor, but it hasn't. There are people who will prefer Hall to Whiting in the centre, but it would be difficult to argue that Whiting doesn't deserve his place in the side.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"And todays massive overstatement goes to ....................'"
Maybe there's been a huge improvement since the Crusaders game. If not, then I don't think that 'chronic' is too strong a word TBH.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Last season there was hardly much of an opportunity to drop him because of injuries. This season he's been going well up until the Wigan game.
I agree it might be interesting to see if he plays against Bradford after his poor display last week, but I still find it hard to credit that Agar would take risks with his job by playing someone he knows is out of form just because he's a 'favourite'.'"
We will come back to this after tonight when a prop is "dropped" to bring Moa in and it isn't Radford
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| Quote ="Robbo4"We will come back to this after tonight when a prop is "dropped" to bring Moa in and it isn't Radford
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If a prop is to be dropped it should be Radford, any one else would be very unlucky considering his performance.'"
Maybe just starting to rotate the props with Easter just around the corner and Radford had a week of when we played Cas.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Maybe just starting to rotate the props with Easter just around the corner and Radford had a week of when we played Cas.
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As long as O'Meley doesn't get rotated i dont mind.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"We will come back to this after tonight when a prop is "dropped" to bring Moa in and it isn't Radford
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It'll make a refreshing change from the Hall/Whiting controversy.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"As long as O'Meley doesn't get rotated i dont mind.
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Bit harsh BDT! Even Mr O'Meley will need a break at some point. Fully understand were you are coming from though.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_biggrin.gif I think we need to start getting 80 mins out of him every week too.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Agreed - we miss his kicking game when he is taken off.
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Funniest thing i've seen is that O'Meley has taken 2 drives from dummy half. Dont recall them but looking at how long it takes him to get his speed up i doubt he made much yardage.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I could see why it would pop up if Whiting's form had been poor, but it hasn't. There are people who will prefer Hall to Whiting in the centre, but it would be difficult to argue that Whiting doesn't deserve his place in the side.'"
More to the point I don't think there's ever been any claims that Whiting was one of the 'favourites' anyway. Think this has more to do with lingering doubts over how Hall was handled last season.
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