So you say….

He was 2 years younger under Hodgson, addmitedly his appearances have been cameos and often against low table opposition like Toulouse but ive seen some promise. We have to try out new ideas at hooker as the Houghton days will soon be over.

Giving their best and effort isn't even gonna be good enough for this one. We have to win this game by any means.

They owe us that.

If there's not a massive response from the players for what they produced last week, then some of those players need to find new occupations. They should be sacked, just like any other employee would be for dereliction of duty.

Easier said then done, Leaders aren't just born they are created, they are created through experiences and a desire to want to improve themselves and those around them.

Prime example is on the two Hull sides recruitment. We've signed Jared Warea Hargreaves. One of the biggest leaders in Rugby League. He will instill natural desire amongst those around him and create and an ethos that money can't buy, that will live on well past his retirement, you saw that yourselves with Jason Smith, Gareth Ellis, Lee Radford, Richard Swain. Yet he's been hailed a has being, a player past it, a bad signing a waste of money, how many said the same about Ryan Hall three years ago, or even SKD or Dean Hadley?

The only places I'm seeing that type of comment is on here. Rovers in JWH have signed arguably the games biggest enforcer, its a year deal so potentially what can go wrong to outweigh all the positives he'll bring to the team?

That's the difference right now. We are recruiting players that'll add positively to the team dynamics, and the building of a culture that creates a willingness to work for each other and fight for the mate next to you.

Unless Hudds have an off day I don't think the 17 we put out tonight is good enough to beat them.

Cricky Huddersfield 1/7 on with the bookies . Where 9/2.

Wow…..really?…..think your in a minority there,with the scintillating form we are in

In the recent past, even when we've been rubbish, we have always had a performance in us when we decided to turn up. As a result you never saw the bookies go mad with our odds, I think they always edged their bets a bit because they knew we were capable, but inconsistent. Our opponents being 1/7 and 1/20 (or whatever we were against Catalans the other week) is embarrassing for a club like Hull and tells you that the bookies have basically disregarded us completely. We are now in the same bracket as Cas and London.

Think Huddersfield -18.5 is the bet.
Can see us getting paggered, unfortunately.

Hudds by 41-50 at 16/1 is the bet

I certainly can't see your lot winning but I don't think you'll take a good beating either, last week against Rovers they were pretty clueless with the ball, we defended really well but Hudds didn't throw much at us and the 24-12 scoreline flattered them.
I think you'll put in a battling performance, one that Dan T can claim youve turned a corner with,
Best bet of the day would be Esan Marsters up against the invisible man Ock to score a double.

Much as I want to see them perform, it might be better for them to go out today with a gallant effort as the possibility of meeting any of the teams already through is more than daunting.

Good luck to those going with the M62 closed both ways from Hudds to Saddleworth due to a bad crash.

Finally Brown at 9 and a half back in the halves!

Wow
Interesting team selection
Hoy
Martin
McIntosh
Sutcliffe
Tindall
Charles
Smith
Ese Ese
Brown
Sao
Scott
Staveley
Lane
Houghton
J Brown
Gardiner
Okunbor

Well aside from Balmforth he's gone with what many supporters had called for.

Like it looks more balanced on paper for me, I’d play Charles on the halves till Jake back nothing to lose IMO, Nu at 9 good and Cam 2nd row Mac in centre happy with that too.

16/17 Good shout...

Hi Tony

Back row looks a bit weak but overall I'm pleased with that team. I'm a bit more confident than I was earlier on in the week. I think we'll only ship 40 points rather than 50.

COYH!

Overall happy with that.

Add Pele and Ashworth to the pack instead of Gardiner and potential ban(insert name here Monday) for next week looks miles better.

Can we play a full half today with thirteen players on the pitch..?

Is it being screened anywhere?

No. Leigh v Featherstone is on YouTube, that's it.