No way is Sneyd the best kicker around, goal kicks maybe, but his in field kicking game hasn't been great for the past couple of years.

Interesting to note that all fiixtures tonight bar St’s v Salford were all losses for home sides.

Agree with others that the bench choices weren't right, Scott and Johnstone were wasted picks for the minutes they played. We need another prop in desperately.

A disappointing result, but were still around that 5th/6th bit of the table I expected us to be, the squad needs some more tweaks to go any higher.

Was still great to be back, I've missed having a grumble at the ref and dissecting the performance on the way home.

Disappointing that we let Tomkins and Catalans to knock us off our game.
With a light pack we should have used Faraimo off the bench , kicked early in the tackle to put them off their game. Connor & Reynolds were poor tonight

For as poor as the ref was, for us to not have a play the ball in their 30 all second half is appalling. Thought Houghton and Sneyd were very poor, wrong options time and time again. Against a big pack you either go wide and run them around, or kick early and turn them around and we didn't do either. It seems that we don't just resort to the last tackle kick to score our tries now, it's give it to Satae twice a set too.

Hopefully that's our poor performance out the way and turn it around next weekend. Can't make as many mistakes and expect to win.

Connor like Sneyd is another who seems to dodge the criticism bullet

play like that again and its likely after the next two games that our beloved neighbours could be above is in the table

You cant carry a half back because he can kick goals.
Organised sweet FA tonight and very debatable that he is the best kicker in the game.
Certainly not the best ball in hand kicker,certainly not the best short kick into the in goal,and several others are just as good with conversions as Sneyd.
Wont mention drop goals.He is now way down the list
I can see McNamara taking his place at some time this season if his form keeps dipping

You mean Houghton

Houghton does absolutely nothing apart from tackle

Roby Clark and dwyer make 30/40 tackles a game aswell as great attacking games

Houghton has lived on tackle 52, he's not even a leader. Only time he leads is when singing old faithful at full time



Sneyd kicks teams to death

People are raving about Connor yet he single handedly lost us the match against Wigan

Yet people don't mention that or the interception against Wakefield

Bet they soon notice if the Wigan game was a play off match

I said you were fortunate with your extra/loop games and I'll stand by that.

Rovers had 'extra' games against St Helens and Catalans whereas you had extra games against a Sezer less Hudds and Salford. Had that been the other way round the league table would be very different and not to your advantage.

IMO.

You did say that Bob, but did you forget what you also said regarding Wigan in the cup.

If you wish to be just a troll, then feel free, a false prophet almost.

I said a banana skin. And that’s just what it was, we pack the middle of the field all night, with just the wings on the flanks, waiting for the overused cross field kicks.

Danny Houghton can’t go on forever, he needs spelling, and if Johnstone isn’t the answer, we need another hooker, not Cator.

We are debilitated without Taylor, and Bowden, and tonight it took its toll.

Our defence has been magnificent, but we need to play some footy, we have Reynolds Connor and Sneyd, but no short kicking game, against the Cats, you’ve got to keep turning them round, not play into their hands.

We beat ourselves tonight, the effort was great, but most of the execution was just poor. I thought Big Chris was great again, and Fonua showing flashes of what he can really do. Like others have said a very strange bench, especially when it seems there’s no intention of using either Scott or Johnstone. Never mind you can’t win them all, and it’s probably brought us all down to earth.

I'm not a troll and accept you were good against a very poor Wigan in the cup. I honestly believe that come the business end Wigan will peak and you will not be able to match them. I may be wrong but it's my honest opinion.

For now you've won 3 from 6 same as Rovers.

Did you play Rider? I lasted half a season aged 18 playing for Fenners in the Hull Works league back in the mid-50's. Over that time, playing at 6, I had a couple of bad facial injuries due to high tackles and a fractured clavicle caused by a very late tackle. Decided the game was not for me and switched to Union.

If you think you can blame one person for a defeat than I'm guessing you have never played a team sport, he made a couple of mistakes, as did other people in the game,no one player can be blamed for a defeat like that.

Connor is a our most creative player and gets plenty of criticism, in fact as soon as he has a bad game it highlighted by people like you (who ash mentioed this a few times).

Him and Reynolds are the only pivots who creative something, as you could see yesterday. I love one person to tell me one chance Sneyd created yesterday (you can include kicks) what other halfback in the league, doesn't create one chance and this is a one of things.

I agree on Houghton, great defensively and can scoot well on the back of a quick play the ball, but doesn't create enough for a hooker (which he was in 2016/17), we certainly need another hooker and if Sneyd doesn't improve we then maybe another pivot if we want to challenge.

I know it isn't Hodgsons fault, but have two quota players (One of which doesn't play) and probably 200k tied up on wingers is really hurting us.

last week kendal sin binned a player for taking a player out after the ball had gone,but last night he did`nt bother.scot taylor picked up on the player who was taken out after he had got rid of the ball.

Ignore him mate, he is a coward, comes on here after we get beat, nowhere to be seen when we win.

He predicted we would get beat by Wigan in the cup and when we win nowhere to be seen.

Messaged you Fred.

Well like it or not, you was completely wrong with your prediction on our cup chances, there’s two trophies worth winning, that’s the business.

Sobering night and performance for us. Back at the KC but it all felt very familiar didn't it. Lack of available props was a huge problem, the lightweight bench also. Can't understand the decision not to have Brown in there. That all took it's toll in the end. Don't get the continued selection of Scott either, I've seen nothing in him yet to suggest he's 1st team material.
Our defence is clearly much improved but our attack despite our much vaunted pivots is stuttering and needs to be much better. We've seen glimpses of it but not enough. I agree with those who have highlighted Sneyd performances, imo he needs to step up, he's the weak link of the three.
This season could yet go either way yet hopefully Hodgson will learn from this.

Going forward, I'm hoping next season we can find an attacking hooker, as were stunted st times from the hooking position and through Sneyd lately who's just not doing it for me.

Taylor and Bowden back Asap, Sao and Satae need some support, Brown has to come in for the bench. And use Johnstone more and we may see a more livelier scooting Houghton.

The teams above us just seem to have more game smarts than us at times and that's where Sneyd is lacking currently no pressure relieving kicks at all last night apart from Reynolds 40/20. If we d of spoiled like Catalans last night we d of crucified with the buzzer.

Is there any news on Taylor? Or Bowden for that matter?

Have to say I agree with you Dave, quite how Jake Connor single handedly lost us the game against Wigan is a mystery, he got binned and gave a penalty away but these things happen both of which were contentious decisions I thought. Pity they only point out that and not the fact he was pretty involved in other positive aspects of our play in the game. In regards to the Wakey game and the intercept, had that pass not been picked off then it was a walk in try for us and that is the breaks, I'd rather see a player take some risks with the ball than none at all. Again in that game his impact was again more positive than negative. So far Jake has created a much higher % of scoring chances and ones that we've converted in to points for as opposed to against.

In regards to Houghton we are back to flogging him in games for 80mins and his defensive work whilst admirable, we need more than just a defensive workhorse. At the start of the season when he was fresh and when spelled last season he was looking more like the player from a few seasons ago when he would scoot and put some neat little kicks in. Last night I thought he looked jaded and after 60 mins he looked out on his feet and just don't understand when Hodgson had Johnstone on the bench he just didnt use him and spell him.

We also need more from Sneyd who was very disappointing last night, as with the surface being wet I thought we may have put at least one or two grubbers in when in the Catalans 20. I thought Catalan did a job on Reynolds to snuff him out the game plus our go forward once either Satae or Sao were off was non existent due to the lack of size. We failed to turn around the Catalan pack throughout the 80 and make them work their way out their own 20.

Again I agree that having 2 quota players with only one playing each week is also hurting us, personally I though having Faraimo on the wing and Fonua on the bench as a utility forward to give us some size on the bench would have been a better option. Not having Brown on the bench was also a big mistake by BH unless Brown was a slight doubt as a bench of Cator, Fash, Johnstone & Scott was just far too lightweight when against a large side like Catalan.

Last night was disappointing but we knew there were going to be games that don't go to plan and last night I think was one of those as we just looked off the pace.