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| No issues with the ref tonight either thought he was pretty fair to both sides.
There was no doubting our intensity and energy levels either tonight thought they were good, so not looking at the 5 day turnaround as an excuse, we matched Wigan in that department tonight. Full credit to the boys.
Again what did us was dumb play, errors, the usual slow ptb allowing Wigan to close us down and on the whole thought our goal line D was good but again too slow moving up and why oh why was no pressure applied to their kickers especially for the drop goal, there was only Taylor that really tried in that department late on.
Brain fart from faraimo for the 8 point try, thought Green played well as did Fash.
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| Just think you’re very negative with the ball. Consider the amount of talent your backline has. Just seems like your waiting for the last to kick and not really using the ball before then.
Good hard fought game, maybe see you in the playoffs. Good luck!
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| The head high taackle on ellis he was looking straight at that was never given
The ball ripped out from mini by luluai with three in the tackle
The drop goal attempt that didnt touch griffin
Liam farell and sargison constantly laying on and slowing down the play the ball two probably three times, even the commentators commented on it
Wigan are very niggly and good at spoiling tactics if you cant see that your cheese has slid off your cracker
We were by no means good but thaler was crap and i think the refs have generally been alot better this year
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| What did green do btw?
Thought Matongo was far better
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"The head high taackle on ellis he was looking straight at that was never given
The ball ripped out from mini by luluai with three in the tackle
The drop goal attempt that didnt touch griffin
Liam farell and sargison constantly laying on and slowing down the play the ball two probably three times, even the commentators commented on it
Wigan are very niggly and good at spoiling tactics if you cant see that your cheese has slid off your cracker
We were by no means good but thaler was crap and i think the refs have generally been alot better this year'" anybody got any pate
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| Anyone looking up at us in the table agaaaaaaaain
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| Thought Masi played really well tonight, ran with aggression, need to rest up now as next 3 games are all winnable, should have paea Bowden manu back, still confident we can get 3rd,
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| Good defensive effort, plenty of heart but rubbish with ball in hand. Not sure what the completion rate was but it was awful for the 2nd time in 5 days and cost us a chance of winning the game. Basic skills terrible, absolutely clueless in the opposition 20 metre area. I'm sick of seeing us turn the ball back inside time after time and forwards driving the ball in over and over late in the tackle count 10 metres from their line, Kicking terrible again and has been said we need some variety in our attacking kicks. same old, same old. We're probably the worst team in SL in the oppostition 20 and we're so negative. Taking the 2 again tonight when when we should be applying pressure. It's as if we know we won;t get over the line.
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| Quote ="NSW"Just think you’re very negative with the ball. Consider the amount of talent your backline has. Just seems like your waiting for the last to kick and not really using the ball before then.
Good hard fought game, maybe see you in the playoffs. Good luck!'"
Completely agree with that. Bizarrely we've scored some great tries this year exploiting the back line, I guess often against weaker defences, but we were too negative tonight. Wigan doing a great job of soaking up pressure, taking chances and strangling the life out of the opposition. Will be a fascinating run in, a Saints Wigan final would be a cracker.
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| Still 3rd and will be going into next match, its still in our hands, we have a decent run in, COYH
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"What did green do btw?
Thought Matongo was far better'"
Credit to Masi, did well. Missed Paea tonight. Interesting to see who we go with next week. Kelly and Connor both lost their mojos a bit of late.
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| , Hope savelio is fit soon, just the type of player we need, nice to see masi back, still think ellis looking his age but hasn't had a lot of game time latterly, Thought Kelly was brought off injured, but no it was tactical
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| Brain fart from faraimo for the 8 point try, thought Green played well as did Fash.'"
That was so soft though, makes a joke of our game, but the rules are the rules, would like to see some common sense used!!! I honestly believe we need a new coach, I’ve nothing against Radford at all, I just don’t think he’s good enough, and the quality of players we have had and are going to have, deserve better. I’d also be happy if Radford got a decent coach to help. but, only my opinion, no malice at all
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| After a battle royal in Saturdays challenge cup semi defeat, we were made to back up on a Thursday which is still so unbelievably unfair for any team.
We looked lost in attack, clunky, misfiring, honestly until Tag barged over, we never threatened, plenty of chances came to nothing, what happened to the screens, ironic the game was brought forward for Sky and the paying public at the ground couldn’t see replays, etc.
Our defence like the oppositions was magnificent, and Wigan probably deserved the points, but a good effort from the boys, if a little dumb at times.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Wigan are not going to lose many games in the run in and I can't see past a Saints v Wigan GF.
Wigan's defence was exceptional tonight there was a spell when Hull had set after set after set but still Wigan didn't crack. In the end all Hull had to show was a Taylor barge over. Closing down the Sneyd DG attempts showed real determination I haven't seen another team able to do that.
Half of Wigan's pack were teenagers but goodness they are tough and they are going to be some team next year. You didn't see it tonight but they can also play some brilliant attacking rugby.
Hull were good opponents but I think 3rd is Wigan's for the taking now.'"
I don’t have the advantage of watching on Sky, but Lockers, Navarrete, Isa, Powell, Farrell, Club, are hardly teenagers.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Good defensive effort, plenty of heart but rubbish with ball in hand. Not sure what the completion rate was but it was awful for the 2nd time in 5 days and cost us a chance of winning the game. Basic skills terrible, absolutely clueless in the opposition 20 metre area. I'm sick of seeing us turn the ball back inside time after time and forwards driving the ball in over and over late in the tackle count 10 metres from their line, Kicking terrible again and has been said we need some variety in our attacking kicks. same old, same old. We're probably the worst team in SL in the oppostition 20 and we're so negative. Taking the 2 again tonight when when we should be applying pressure. It's as if we know we won;t get over the line.
Really disappointed tonight as wigan weren't up to much'"
Completion rates from the Sky TV match were Hull 26/39 Wigan 28/35. Pretty even in the first half but Wigan were 16/17 in the 2nd.(Hull 15/21).
With Wigan on a form roll and playing 4 of their last 5 matches at home we are now in a real battle for 3rd place particularly due to our negative F/A points tally.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Brain fart from faraimo for the 8 point try'"
Pre match Radford said that he was hugely disappointed by the defence from attacking kicks against Warrington and they had worked hard on this for the Wigan match. The defence by Faraimo for the try was terrible. He was hopelessly out of position against a smaller player and so couldn't contest against Marshall in the catch for the ball so went for the illegal tackle magnifying his error.
Who would be a coach?
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| Quote ="bonaire"This short turnround is getting boring
It doesnt deflect how poor we are again in the opposition 20.
Keep possession and turn them round when we have the chance as i cant see us scoring unless we tire them out and produce something different on the last tackle'"
It was a major factor. We had a five day turnround, Wigan had fourteen. I imagine their players had a break, a chance to get over any minor niggles. Some would've be away for a few days sunning themselves.
Those percentages were vital in such a close game, regardless of our lack of nous in offence.
Plenty of effort as usual but if Kelly and Connor aren't on form and Sneyd has a number done on him like last night then we struggle.
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| Probably worst I’ve seen Kelly play. Should have gone off far sooner.
Fash proving the doubters wrong but getting bagged anyway. Don’t understand what else he can do when he’s making yards, bumping players off, has the quickest ptb of the forwards, and tackles everything.
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| we desperately need some size and aggression in the forwards and anyone who thinks fash and lane are better options than green and hadley need to give their heads a bang. Both should have played saturday IMO
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| Quote ="the cal train"Probably worst I’ve seen Kelly play. Should have gone off far sooner.
Fash proving the doubters wrong but getting bagged anyway. Don’t understand what else he can do when he’s making yards, bumping players off, has the quickest ptb of the forwards, and tackles everything.'"
6 carries for 26m plus the error which likely cost us the game. Completely ineffective at this level.
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| apart from the silly offload, I thought Fash had a good game and Masi did well after being out so long. Fash will offer better value for money than Green, who is out injured too much and is inconsistent. People must watch a different Hadley to me, he offers very little going forward rarely wins the collinson and never breaks a tackle.
Bit unlucky at times, didn't think the ref had a bad game, but a lot of 50/50's didn't go our way, with another ref, there could have been 2 sin bins, no 8 point try and Tommy L would have been called back for a knock on.
Completion rate lost us the game, thought we looked better with Connor at 6, but the pivots are firing and Shaul at FB is a massive issue that needs addressing.
Massive credit to Wigans defence.
Still on the hunt for top 3 with 5 to go which is very pleasing.
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| Radford has a big decision to make at full back. Shaul as the 3rd pivot hasn’t improved in years of trying. In the opposition 20 the ball gets to him round the back and he just jumps on the spot not knowing what to do. We would be much more of an attaching threat with Connor 1 Kelly 6 Sneyd 7.
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| Masi tried hard, and was the only real grafter apart from Tag.
That's what kiiled us in the semi and killed us again. Our pack is basically unable to graft the hard yards.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Masi tried hard, and was the only real grafter apart from Tag.
That's what kiiled us in the semi and killed us again. Our pack is basically unable to graft the hard yards.'"
The thing with our forwards is we don’t have any aggression whatsoever. Sneyd needed protecting last night against Isa (massive grub) yet nobody was interested. Wigans forwards just bullied ours.
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