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| Quote ="Dave K."Not really its obvious if you have a brain, great potential and deserved his chance, but hasn't taken it and let's himself down with his weight, I'd still sign him up but he ready needs to work hard on his weight.
It's called a balanced view, maybe too hard for you to understand?'"
Appreciate the insult. It doesn't add any credibility to your point by the way. "Balanced view"?...ok. "Potential" is possibly the most cliched term in sport and is often used to masquerade other failings. He has chosen his lifestyle and thus will end up in the lower leagues before disappearing like many other players with "potential". Thackeray, Bell, Divorty et al.
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| Quote ="spegs"Appreciate the insult. It doesn't add any credibility to your point by the way. "Balanced view"?...ok. "Potential" is possibly the most cliched term in sport and is often used to masquerade other failings. He has chosen his lifestyle and thus will end up in the lower leagues before disappearing like many other players with "potential". Thackeray, Bell, Divorty et al.'"
You deservef it, as you tried to make me look silly by dragging up an old post, but it didn't work.
You have no credibility on here and you admitted the other week you only post on here to wind people up.
I hope you are wrong on the last few lines (although you could be right) reminds me of Cooke who struggled with his defence in his early career, will have to wait and see what happens, it will be a massive regret in his life if lets himself down.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You deservef it, as you tried to make me look silly by dragging up an old post, but it didn't work.
Thank you...brilliant, if not, slightly ironic riposte
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| Quote ="Armavinit"This all smacks of the Widnes debacle. The team as a whole were poor, Houghton and Ellis bumped off in tackles, unbelievable, this season but Abdul gets put through the wringer. Maybe I'm wrong but the KID has a huge frame, so has body to suit, if the club thought he was overwieght they would be taking steps. I don't see this happening? I hope the same knee jerk reaction from the management doesn' happen. Where do all these stories about burgers etc. come from. Some so called fans should be ashamed of themselves. George Williams isn't svelt!!!!!!'"
Some interesting points here. I thought Houghton and Ellis, along with Minichello played with the same intensity they do most weeks. In fact Mini seemed to sense the team needed a lift and did his best to take them with him. The Cas players appeared to be pulling back at the point of contact to have a second effort. This was I presume a deliberate tactic to take advantage of Hull's fatigue after the semi. Abdul on the other hand was clearly outdone by his excess weight and lack of agility. The kid could no doubt be a star but he has to take more care of himself and have a more professional approach to his conditioning. George Williams is a good comparison actually because he is everything that Abdul could and should be and Jake Connor probably will be next year. I think the ball is firmly in Abdul's court. Just my tilt on it of course.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Absolutely. No 20-year-old pro sportsman should be in his condition.'"
Disagree. Michael "bully boy" Smith is a similar build to Abdul and is currently 8th in the PDC rankings. He seems to do ok.
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| Quote ="Darkside Dave"Some interesting points here. I thought Houghton and Ellis, along with Minichello played with the same intensity they do most weeks. In fact Mini seemed to sense the team needed a lift and did his best to take them with him. The Cas players appeared to be pulling back at the point of contact to have a second effort. This was I presume a deliberate tactic to take advantage of Hull's fatigue after the semi. Abdul on the other hand was clearly outdone by his excess weight and lack of agility. The kid could no doubt be a star but he has to take more care of himself and have a more professional approach to his conditioning. George Williams is a good comparison actually because he is everything that Abdul could and should be and Jake Connor probably will be next year. I think the ball is firmly in Abdul's court. Just my tilt on it of course.'"
I agree about Abdull it's just so frustrating. A kid of his age who's been training full time for a couple of years should not have a physique that. He needs to realise how much talent he's got and that he could go on to be a top class player if he sorts himself out. One thing I will add though is that he seems to cop more criticism than others who played just as poorly like he did against Widnes earlier this season.
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| He's grossly overweight, and was the same at the beginning of last season.
Abdull could be a star, but somethings not right.
He's out of contract at the end of the season, and there's hasn't been the slightest hint of what might be happening with him.
Maybe the club have a 1 year option in their favour??
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| Quote ="Armavinit"This all smacks of the Widnes debacle. The team as a whole were poor, Houghton and Ellis bumped off in tackles, unbelievable, this season but Abdul gets put through the wringer. Maybe I'm wrong but the KID has a huge frame, so has body to suit, if the club thought he was overwieght they would be taking steps. I don't see this happening? I hope the same knee jerk reaction from the management doesn' happen. Where do all these stories about burgers etc. come from. Some so called fans should be ashamed of themselves. George Williams isn't svelt!!!!!!'"
The problem with your argument is Abduls weight is round his belly.He needs to lose the fat belly and possibly a stone in weight and start some speed training as he is too slow.
Williams on the other hand is all muscle power plus he has pace.
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| he cert seems to be our new scrapegoat, watched the 2nd half again and in fairness he didn't do to bad, saying that he really has to knuckle down and shift some timber, shame really because he has all the skills, balls in his court I suppose, next week Hadley surely derserves a spot even if on the bench , hopefully binman fonua and watts back,
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| Lose next week i i hate to think what this so called Fans forum will bring ,we lost and the knives get sharpened and a up and coming player gets it firmly in the back ,if you think that if Pryce or the best 6 in the world would have made the slightest difference you are kidding yourself.Look at the stats for our forwards they were shocking to say the least and you expected Abdull to perform behind a well beaten pack.If he looks at this site which most ,if not all players do its done his game no good whatsoever. .Constructive criticism yes down right abuse is not the way decent fans behave .Well over 50 yrs i have supported this Club and never in all that time have i heard such garbage .I hope for Radders sake we win something or his head will be called for along with Pearson..mark my words
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| Quote ="hull2524"he cert seems to be our new scrapegoat, watched the 2nd half again and in fairness he didn't do to bad, saying that he really has to knuckle down and shift some timber, shame really because he has all the skills, balls in his court I suppose, next week Hadley surely derserves a spot even if on the bench , hopefully binman fonua and watts back,'"
Nobody is making him the scapegoat you pleb, not read one thing blaming abdul for us losing last night
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| Quote ="Wizard crane"Lose next week i i hate to think what this so called Fans forum will bring ,we lost and the knives get sharpened and a up and coming player gets it firmly in the back ,if you think that if Pryce or the best 6 in the world would have made the slightest difference you are kidding yourself.Look at the stats for our forwards they were shocking to say the least and you expected Abdull to perform behind a well beaten pack.If he looks at this site which most ,if not all players do its done his game no good whatsoever. .Constructive criticism yes down right abuse is not the way decent fans behave .Well over 50 yrs i have supported this Club and never in all that time have i heard such garbage .I hope for Radders sake we win something or his head will be called for along with Pearson..mark my words'"
And your just talking complete tosh
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"And your just talking complete tosh'"
I for one, thought it was a concise and damning post. Two ways at looking at everything, Abdul is getting bladed, wether you see that or not.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Nobody is making him the scapegoat you pleb, not read one thing blaming abdul for us losing last night'"
Got to agree, I can't find any such posts either, and where the "abuse" is coming from is anybody's guess.
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| Quote ="ccs"Got to agree, I can't find any such posts either, and where the "abuse" is coming from is anybody's guess.'"
Its not like anyone is making it up, its clear hes unfit and out of shape. I am, but im not trying to make as a sl player. People are just to sensitive , and clueless
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| why do you have to resort to insults and being a total p.ick if people don't agree with you? if you don't agree fair enough
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Its not like anyone is making it up, its clear hes unfit and out of shape. I am, but im not trying to make as a sl player. People are just to sensitive , and clueless'"
You only have to look at the photo on the page posted early this afternoon to see he is carrying so much fat around his waist it goes also around his back.
He is a big lad but that fat tyre could be as much as 8 or 9 kilos in weight.
Lose that,increase his fitness level and work on his speed and we could have a player.
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| hopefully he will take that advice, because theres a good player in there,
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| Quote ="hull2524"why do you have to resort to insults and being a total p.ick if people don't agree with you? if you don't agree fair enough'"
Because your talking shiiiite, show me a post that blames abdul for last night. Nothing to do with not agreeing with me, people disagree with me all the time, I dont insult everyone. Just pulling you up on your usual tripe
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| Quote ="hull2524"hopefully he will take that advice, because theres a good player in there,'"
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| I didn't say people where blaming him I said a scapegoat which implies he is the one copping a fair amount of flak when he was no better or worse than most of the players Imo. That is my opinion and if you don't agree fine just leave out the childish insults.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Quote ="hull2524"why do you have to resort to insults and being a total p.ick if people don't agree with you? if you don't agree fair enough'"
Because your talking shiiiite, show me a post that blames abdul for last night. Nothing to do with not agreeing with me, people disagree with me all the time, I dont insult everyone. Just pulling you up on your usual tripe'" Quote ="Tinkerman23"I never want to see abdul in a hull shirt again, looking like that, its embarrassing ha'"
You said you never wanted Abdul in a Hull shirt again, I take it that you meant his performance was the worst ever and he should be gone or you and as others are making personal insults about him?
Care to tally that up with your subsequent posts?
Typical of many fans on here whom love to scapegoat after one poor half behind a well beaten pack, same as Logan quite honestly after the Widnes game.
JA has had hardly any first team minutes and the expectation that he should be dragging the team about, covering for tired forwards is ridiculous. Yes some of his efforts were poor, however that applied right across the field/team and he is still a number 6 ffs!
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| ....why miss out the end of the sentence, "looking like that", and why add the phrase "his performance was the worst ever "??
Kind of defeats your argument.
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| Quote ="ccs"....why miss out the end of the sentence, "looking like that", and why add the phrase "his performance was the worst ever "??
Kind of defeats your argument.'"
I missed out nothing, it's all included. read my edited post after my comp had a glitch, it states either Tink thought he was the worst ever or was making a personal jibe regarding abdul, yet said no-one was having a dig at him/aportioning blame.
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| 5 star thread. Can't wait till you lose the cup final and there is a 40 page thread of school yard insults. In ordering extra pop corn for that one
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