Dave You remember this when I said on 5/2/2014 that Radders would take you into a relegation fight ,before the Bradford points deduction?

They'd still be 7 points behind us so we'd hardly be in a relegation dogfight with them

Well taken out of context Jake.

Try posting it in English then next time

So as Jake has pointed out I was right and you wrong, still done miles worst than I thought though. I honestly didn't think Radford could take us so far backwards.

Jake

I'm typing this slowly as I know you can't read very fast. I said ,back on 5/2/2014,that having Radford in charge would put you in danger of being involved in a relegation fight. (still with me?) This was before the points deduction was made. Your maths prowess does you proud, they are still 7 points adrift. However, had the deduction not been made I am sure the morale at Bradford would have been quite different and more points would have been picked up. I was also merely pointing out to Dave K. that he stated that no one else was saying that Radford would/could involve you at the bottom (which was right at the time I was the only one) but he also erroneously stated you would be nowhere near the bottom 2. English enough for you?

I see what you're saying Meatpaste but regarding morale at Bradford being quite different and more points being picked up... maybe so but that could also have had an effect on other teams close to the bottom. Because of the points deduction teams have had something of a comfort zone. Without that comfort zone teams such as FC may have responded differently this season. We'll never know.

You type at whatever speed you want mate. I presume it is easier typing slowly with 6 fingers on each hand anyway? I'll continue to read at my leisure which, of course, isn't dictated to by the speed you type at. Thanks for posting something legible as my pidgin English isn't that great. As rovers have struggled to put the decimated bradford side away twice I'd presume they'd also be in this imaginary relegation dogfight you're now trying to construct? Otherwise you're talking bollox as I've already said

Succinctly put Jake.

Hmm, I do agree tho that had Bradford not been deducted the points we may well have seen ourselves finishing second to bottom.

Based on what, exactly?

I think bradford would have put up more of fight.

Fully agree, Radford is lucky Bradford have been deducted point.

I honestly cant see us winning another game this season. Players confidence in their own ability and that of their team mates seems shot. Sad to see, but it's going to be a long close season for Hull FC fans.

Probably more the salary cap issue that affected Bradford than the six points.

They deserve to go down though, they've only beaten three sides and have conceded 40+ points twelve times.

Jake
Congratulations on totally missing the point. My original post was that the appointment of Radford would mean you would be involved in a relegation battle and I predicted that you would finish 1 place above London. Dave K responded at the time saying that you would be 'nowhere near' the bottom 2. My reference to a 'dogfight' was my prediction AT THE TIME. The points deduction has meant that was not going to be the case( a point agreed by other FC fans on here) but does not alter the fact that Radford has taken you to 12th place ,1 place above relegation. I agree that Rovers have not been much better and we are only above you courtesy of us doing the double over FC. We have also recognised this by binning our coach. Time I think for AP to follow suit.

Which has been proved wrong so don't know why you have brought it up again



We are 13 points ahead of Bradford.

13-6=7. Would still be 7 points ahead of them without the deduction.

It is mathematically possible to be top 4 and still be only 7 points above the relegation places.

Wouldn't call that a relegation dogfight. 1 place or 8 places it's still 7 points!

Again point missed. I was reiterating that Radford would have you,for the want of a better phrase, hanging around the bottom rather than challenging for the top 6. The fact you are 13 points ahead is irrelevant you are still where I predicted (near as damn it)

Fair enough.

But NOT in a relegation dogfight?

1 spot above relegation is as close as you can get to being relegated without being relegated so i think his point his pretty relevant.
If Bradford had not lost 6 points, then things could well have turned out differently for them. It could also have meant we would have sorted our own mess out a lot quicker as well so who knows.

I don't need any congratulations thanks as I haven;t missed any points. You predicted we'd finish one place above london and you were wrong on that and that we'd be in a relegation dogfight which we aren;t so you're wrong again. You can quote ifs, buts and maybe's all day long but the simple fact is your prediction was wrong so you have no reason to come back months later claiming you were right.

radford is useless, we all know that, but the fact is he's still taken more points off the rest of the teams in SL than sandycock and chester have managed

My top 5 are almost in place, my FC guess is way off!

Put us top next year, might scrape the 8

Wish it was that easy, lol we have got to improve with the new recruits,

My top 3 bang on.

The less said about your predictions for Hull, Cas and Widnes the better