because he has money, and with money comes power. Unfortunatley money doesn't come with responsibility or humility when you're like the "Dr"

The local media, Humberside & the Hull Daily Mail have been poor in all if this. There scared stiff of Allam and are afraid to rock the boat.

Kudos to Peter Levy who made a point of repeatedly referring to Mr Allam in his comments on Look North, quite a contrast to the snivelling Simon Clark who consistently talked of a "Dr" Allam. Why do some of the media persist in indulging this maniacs ego by allowing him to misuse this title?

As I see it Simon Clark likes Allam because he likes any one who doesn't like Adam Pearson, David Burns referred to him as a very nice man today, the fact is locally most of them are running scared, but the nationals don't scare easy!!!

Steve Bruce has been trying to smooth things over by claiming "the die when you want to" line was referring to the CAMPAIGN and not the campaigners,he's not convincing me though.

This was the best quote:

Bruce, appointed Hull manager in June 2012, said 45 years, and I'm not making excuses here, but if you speak to him he still hasn't quite grasped the English language."

I think he might have also added English culture, manners and understanding of football SUPPORTERS to this

Allam could have clarified himself had that have been the truth.

They're claiming he's been misunderstood. I agree, but he's only been misunderstood by those people who thought he was the Messiah!!

I'm sure he wasn't being "misunderstood" until the FA investigation in to his little outburst popped up.

Anybody hear a sound of furious back-pedalling?

I have been wondering about this name change issue for a while now and can't help but thinking that there is a hidden reason that Allam is so adamant he will go ahead.

The guy may well be a complete , but from a financial point of view he is not stupid, especially with his own money. For get the "gift to the city" rubbish, he has LOANED Hull City £70m. At some point he will get that back, plus a bit more.

Could this hidden reason be a sponsor ship deal which is contingent on the name change? Is there a prospective buyer insisting on this before the deal is finalised?

Of course I am assuming here.

With the team securing their most high profile home win in their history, does the naming issue, keeping them in the newspapers, give them the global media attention he was looking for?

Either way, for someone who has resided on these shores for over 45 years, I doubt his intentions could be mis-interpreted

Another insult to the City Supporters really if Steve Bruce is so nieve he believes any of them will swollow that lame excuse if that was the case and it isn't, why didnt Allam come straight out and say he had been mis quoted or his sentiments had been misinterpreted!! He meant it at the time or he wouldn't have kept stum afterwards.

He may have been in Hull for over forty five years, he sure has not grasped the way the people of this city think about their institutions. There can be no mistake as to what he said and no amount of "spin" put on it now is going to alter that fact.

It is only a matter of time before he walks or is pushed away, can you imagine the chairman of Man U, Liverpool or even Chelsea saying that about there supporters.

He has now run out of road and he makes his own mind up what he does now, but he is finished in this city.

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He certainly seems to have made a major faux pas with the 'die' comments, up til that point I kind of thought it was a 50/50 of who was in the right and the wrong. I was of the mind that the club was always called the tigers, the only thing was the naming and that was all just semantics as they would always be called City regardless of the branding.
The worry for City fans now is that if you're right and he is finished in the City then I struggle to see them finding a buyer and there is only one outcome from that. Personally I think there'll be a back down to middle ground of marketting the Tigers brand and the club continuing to be named Hull City.

Just as aside, and please don't take this as a dig because it's not, during the FC rebranding as the Sharks, how fully was this embraced, was it just ignored by the fanbase hence the switch back or did some fans really get behind it. It's just a quirk that teams like Bradford, Leeds, Warrington have really took it on yet Hull reverted back pretty quickly.

the fans never embraced it, but to be fair it co-coincided with us being the worst we had been on the field in living memory, the fans hated David Lloyd and by that stage the Boulevard was looking way past its best.

had the name change be attempted in say 1992 after we'd won the Premiership, or 2003 when we moved to the KC things may have been received more positively. Instead it was doomed to fail from the start.

To play Devil's advocate - how would people feel if it did indeed create a global brand ?

I hated the Sharks branding with a passion.
I never bought any merchandise and when we went back to Hull FC I was over the moon.
All three clubs have very loyal traditional followers, the sooner Allam smartens up the better for City and its fans.

Loving the way the swear filter has changed

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it won't happen, fans abroad like success and history, which is why the Man United's, Real Madrids, Barcelona's and AC Milans dominate shirt sales in Asia. The fans out there want to see Messi, Ronaldo & Rooney not the likes of Robert Koren.

The "Sharks" naming was done as part of a rugby league wide initiative where just about all (except hkr and st helens) changed their playing titles. It worked for a few clubs, didnt work for others and was not liked by a few (Hull FC)

Devils advocate, but would you embrace being called hull robins?

Interesting to note the Daily Mail not referring to him as 'Dr' in that article.

I think you should celebrate your tradition, but not be bound to it [uif[/u that prevents your progress.

If I thought rebranding Rovers as the Robins or City as the Tigers would help them advance I could get behind it, or at worst ignore it. I don't think either would though. The current names are established and popular with the core support and there are big reasons why generating revenue from outside those core supports is very difficult.
I half suspect the traditional Victorian and Edwardian names appeal to overseas fans of the PL - the fashion for americanising everything maybe belongs to the past.
If City were Champions League regulars, and there was a genuine opportunity to establish a global brand... but that is a very distant prospect!

This is were his whole argument falls down. He is unwilling to accept there is very little evidence to support his case or to present the evidence that would back up his stance.

If the local press weren't so subservient to him I think they would have pushed him much further and we would have seen his true colours much sooner.

I' don't think I'd be overly bothered by the hull robins as a name, if it was guaranteed to give us massive investment and the success that went with it. if it was a complete rebranding as hull lions for example then I'd be anti. It's where my mind was with hull tigers, it does hold an element of tradition and the badge already says that. I'd be more worried if I was a Cardiff fan and had the colours, nickname changed.
Would City fans rather be called hull city in the lower leagues or worse or the tigers in the prem league
If Hull had been rebranded as the hull airlie birds it would have probably stuck.

You might not be bothered with it but yours is a nebulous argument because your Board are too street wise to ever consider changing the name, you know that so its easy for you to say it wouldn't bother you. It would bother thousands though!!

There is little doubt that when you talk to Aussies as I did during the world Cup and during last season they talk about Leeds but not the Rhino's and about Wigan but not the Warriors and they all agree that the top two international brands in the game are St Helens and Hull KR if anything the inclusion of Warriors, Rams, Bears, Crusaders, Wildcats etc has diluted the international brand image of those Clubs that have adopted them. Rovers will never change to Robins nor should they in my opinion. However despite not seeming to recognise the newer names the visitors I spoke to always refer to Hull as Hull FC and several I spoke to even referred to Wakefield as Wakefield Trinity.

I know Tigers has always been associated with City and so despite being pretty loopy there is some credence in what Allam says his problem is that he can't prove changing the name will make a significant difference, their fans by staying sensible and lobbying in the right way (well most of them) have painted him into a corner. I think he's got a buyer who wants it called Tigers myself but that's just my views of course..