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| Quote ="downtheante"yes, I did derail the thread a bit with this
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| Quote ="Kosh"Until he moved to NZ it was colourful to say the least, but I don't think it included any criminal convictions.'"
Most of his indiscretions were regarding the breaking of club rules due to drinking and timekeeping etc.
However I do remember (vaguely) that he was involved in a fight at some stage but not sure if the police were involved? |
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| Quote ="Standee"it was obviously a very worthwhile "derail" though.'"
Agreed! No ban for downtheante, this time!  |
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
I post on here less these days for EXACTLY the reasons posted above. Very well said sir. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Most of his indiscretions were regarding the breaking of club rules due to drinking and timekeeping etc.
However I do remember (vaguely) that he was involved in a fight at some stage but not sure if the police were involved?'"
I seem to remember an article saying about charges against him being dropped. |
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| Quote Seymour was sacked by the Broncos in 2006 after he allegedly head-butted a woman on the dance floor of Brisbane's Regatta Hotel but no criminal charges were laid.'"
No charges laid, and his other misdemeanour was for being drunk on a night out but again no charges. |
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For 2012, for SO, SH and 9 we have the following
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Would Ellis have moved to Hull had he known there were to be so many senior players vying for the No. 7 shirt?
Will Horne be used more sparingly?
Good to have competition for places, but where we have not recruited well in the halves in the past, have the club gone over board this time?'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I honestly don't Martin. I can't think of anyone who used to post a lot and doesn't now with the exception of Big Dave T and his lack of posts have nothing to do with the way this board is run.'"
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
I agree, let's only post positives because that will significantly increase the debate |
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"This board is quieter purely because people are getting past caring and finding better ways to spend their time. That's almost certain to remain the case until a big change happens at the club, many fans are just too disenchanted to be easily won back now.'"
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"think it could be curtains for Horne .'"
Maybe they have already made Horne the highest offer they are prepared to do and he's found somewhere else who will pay him more?
or maybe Horne wants to call it a day
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"think it could be curtains for Horne .'"
Still think he may get a year deal,but wouldn't be surprised. |
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| Quote ="Standee"Maybe they have already made Horne the highest offer they are prepared to do and he's found somewhere else who will pay him more?
or maybe Horne wants to call it a day
or maybe he's staying'"
He'll be staying, we don't have another natural 6 at the club. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He'll be staying, we don't have a natural 6 at the club.'"
I hope it's on a reduced deal if he is staying. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He'll be staying, we don't have another natural 6 at the club.'"
Can't see him going anywhere else. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He'll be staying, we don't have another natural 6 at the club.'"
6 Seymour
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Obst as back up.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I agree, let's only post positives because that will significantly increase the debate'"
Thats not what he said atall, and tbh it is also pretty typical of exactly the point he was making.
FWIW I agree with the bulk of his comment, there are are a fair few historic posters that dont post anymore for whatever reason. |
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"6 Seymour
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Obst as back up.
Maybe?'"
Possibly, there are definate options without Horne but I just don't see a natural 6 with Horne's running game, certainly not from Seymour or Ellis.
I think above all else Horne deserves a new deal as he has been in good form for us this season. In terms of a reduced contract I don't know as I don't know what he earns now. |
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I can't see us going into next season without Horney, no ones knows if Ellis will be good enough at this level, he could be another Danny Brough or alternatively another Chris Thorman.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC" [there are are a fair few historic posters that dont post anymore for whatever reason.'"
Probably gone out and topped themselves after all the negativity that appears on our forum.
(We sign a player,he gets shot down before he even gets here.) |
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| Quote ="Standee"But, with respect, the annoucement is total garbage.
This is a Hull FC fans message/discussion board, is it not, Gleeson is a Hull FC player, is he not, a statement has been made by FC that he has been given "leave", as the people who (indirectly) pay his wages we are perfectly entitled to comment.
No wonder there is an ever growing list of people who find it pointless coming on the boards in recent times.'"
His private life is just that - private. I knew someone would trot out the "we pay his wages" line.
Technically I help pay the wages of hundreds of thousands of civil servants but I have no right to know what is happening in their private lives, nor discuss them on the internet.
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Got to agree I can't see us offloading Horne and to b efIr I don't think we should. I like Obst a lot, more than Horne in some respects, but with the squad shaping up as it is, Horne gives us more options for team reshuffles if needed IMO and if it came down to a choice between the two I would keep Horne.
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@HDMEditor just tweeted:
Finally tomorrow, #HullFC coach Richard Agar says a deal for Aussie Brett Seymour is not done & dusted although he says he's KC-bound.
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6.horne
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Is it me but is this the worst kept secret since Ryan Giggs started watching Big Brother.
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