I heard that. Sums up the story of the match really.

Your humility is much appreciated. The best of luck for the rest of year, including your licence application ( Cas is my favourite away day).

You haven't seen the incident yet your an expert. Typical Coddy. I'm not surprised your defending a ref but unfortunately your the "clueless" one on this.

Well, if you have nothing planned, you're always welcome to come down and watch Cas v Salford on Sunday next week?

This thread is Childish.

Child was complete garbage, but I can't understand how anyone can say he cost you the game. It's even worse when you have your coach saying he 100% cost you the game. Sean Long was a complete idiot tonight

Shame Child spoiled what should have been a really good game, good luck for the rest of the season.

If the ref calls held and simultaneously the ball is off-loaded then it is indeed a scrum, with head and feed given to the team in possession.
He did enough wrong without this one though.

He cost us the game because whenever we had field position and looked to apply pressure he pinged us with imaginary penalties. He did the same to you, just not at as vital times.

I dont think I can add to what everyone has said on this thread about the referee. He was an absolute disgrace, one of the worst performances I have seen in 30+ years of being a Hull FC fan.
What I will add is this. If it is true that some of our 'fans' where calling for Agars head after that game (in the vicinity of the press conference so I believe) They want to give it a rest. I saw a team tonight playing for their coach, no matter what any of us think of him, this is a FACT.
So lets stop the moaning and start doing what us Hull FC fans are good at, supporting the bloody team!

Look daft lad, stick to Safety Camera Partnerships and stop pretending you know the Laws of the Game or even simple common sense. The scenario you described has one of THREE outcomes:

1) Ref decides "ball steal" - penalty to side in possession

2) Ref decides "pass after tackle" - penalty to tackling side

3) Ball "comes loose" (as in either passed or stripped) as he called "held" - scrum with head & feed to team last in possession

The only time I would criticise the ref, given the above, is if he awarded a scrum with head & ball to the tackling side.

Anything to add?

He also gave a penalty to cas for (presumably) interferance that never was, that Cas subsequently scored from.

Apparently banging on the windows of the press room and chanting!

Why would he call held when the player had only just gone into contact was still on his feet moving forward with his arms free for an offload? If he did call held at that point it's even worse!

TBF, that's happened a bit this season, and when the player has offloaded the ball they have got penalised.

look soft c0ck stick to fishing and telling everyone else how much you know about literally everything, because I'm not interested. You didn't see it so just pipe down.

Because his leg was lifted.

So not a scrum then?

After a couple of excellent pints in the Welly I'm still completely p*ssed off that I've watched a game completely dominated by the referee's performance.

Having binned Radford for the first offence he then penalises Cas for offside 5 times in 5 minutes but can't find his card. He warns the Cas captain at least twice but still only finds his card to bin one from each side for a minor brawl.

All credit to Richard Agar for saying what most of us fans were thinking.

Child was bad for both teams, but ATEOTD he gave us 3 cards and them 1, gave them penalties in more danger areas (2 of with they kicked, BTW, which would have made the game 16-18 in our favour) and sent our player to the sin bin with no warning and repeatedly did nothing to their players after numerous warnings.

Truly awful ref.

Was just commenting on the player been called held too early, nothing else. Haven't properly read the full content of your debate.

He had only just gone into contact and was still moving forward. No reason at all to call held at that point.

I know that you will always defend refs Dave but tonight Mr Childs gave the worst display of refereeing that I have ever seen in my years watching the game - he was totally out of his depth and Stuart Cummings should hang his head in shame by selecting him for a game played (and I know we are not top of the pops as a team at the moment) between a fast playing team (CAS) and one of the best supported at probably the best Stadium. Its like giving you a Wembley Final Mate !!! I think Mr Childs will not have a game at the KC again.

I came away tonight 100% happy with my team , everyone of those players put there body on the line ,how fitz managed to keep his cool with that joke of a ref was beyond me. I really hope that agar did speak his mind and takes the fine because games like tonights cannot be allowed to go unpunished by the rugby league.childs should be brought to justice for that performance as it just makes a mockery of our great game.

Once the leg is lifted held is called, regardless of anything.

Childs' Twitter profile:

"Have an opinion on most things, quick to judge but rarely wrong (though RL fans may disagree!)"

One thing we agree on!