More or less of a liability than the penalty machine that is Danny Washbrook?

Anyway - this sounds like a whole team failure rather than one or two. I'm most disappointed in our senior players TBH.

Very disappointing.

Possible the most stupid statment I have read on here.

Time for bed for me.

Should of just cemented our position

we've missed shrek today

Sounded like we had no organisation or kicking game. No surprise though that we play poor when Long is injured and we also play poor when he doesnt turn up on the pitch.

I agree Dave, you cannot blame Agar for the senior players going, by and large, missing.

I am turning Roverside off now as I don't want to hear Gwilym masturbating live on air.

Game over still 4th. you need to take these games and come back stronger from them. Next week is the key against a slightly resurgent Dragons

Hopefully we'll learn lessons from a game like this going into the play-offs.

We need o meley back soon we really missed him today , still not convinced at all by lauaki

Well, all I can say is, thank you Crusaders. Kept us in 4th, but we need to get back on the horse big style next week.

dragons is a must win but 1 win from the saints and hudds game i will take but let a 18 point margin slip like that is shocking

Bet the smug prat EXPRO keeps a low profile for a few days.

He wont, he'll just make excuses. He'll say that our effort was excellent and we just came up against Hudds on a white hot day.

So the coach has no responsibility for player discipline?

So the coach has no responsibility for motivating senior players?

About as 'stupid' as the statements suggesting Agar is a top class coach, swings and roundabouts mate.

Here we go again. Another thread turning into Agar out thread. Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Can I just say that anyone claiming that Fitz (as a senior player) didn't stand up today is an utter loon IMO.

So it's Agar's fault we lost? It's clear the gameplan was sound as we was 18-0 up. At the end of the day we sounded quite naive and suffered from poor kicking game and bad penalties... Perhaps Agar should have brought Washy off earlier but ATEOTD it's a loss down to the players this week IMO.

You know the drill by now, any win is due to the players and/or Webster. Agars only contribution to a win is to reduce the margin. Whereas any loss is 100% Agars responsibility.

agar out socks primed and ready to go.

And visa-versa mate. At least you'll have clean socks tomorrow.

I didn't say it was solely down to Agar that we lost, even I won't be calling for his head on the back of that one. I'm out of the country so couldn't be at or listen to the game, but from what people are saying on here we collapsed due to appalling discipline and senior players not being motivated to see it through. I just find it bizarre that people are talking as if those are areas which the head coach has no influence or control over.

what makes me laugh is that had we won, there would be none of those types of posts here. FICKLE HULL FANS. reknowned for it.

We got nilled in the second half due to errors, poor discipline, and a strong Huddersfield pulling their finger out after a first half that flattered us in terms of scoreline. Not his biggest fan, but not Agar's fault today, too many individual errors.