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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"And if he was kept in the centres and taught to defend like a centre he would be.'"
Like Welham you mean ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Oh sorry for stepping so badly out of line.'"
That's not what I meant.
The discussion has broadened out to encompass his entire career, but the OP intended simply to slate him for last night's performance. Which tied in with PAUL M's point about his performance last night not justifying a thread of it's own.
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| Quote ="Kosh"That's not what I meant.
The discussion has broadened out to encompass his entire career, but the OP intended simply to slate him for last night's performance. Which tied in with PAUL M's point about his performance last night not justifying a thread of it's own.'"
I don't think he defended very well last night. A couple of times he was saved by his team mates.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Like Welham you mean ?'"
Welham might miss a few due to the jumping out of line but he has also made some trysavers. Thing is Morgan believes and he has scored 7 in 5 and been ever present unless injured. Take him or Hall over Yeamon anyday.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Welham might miss a few due to the jumping out of line but he has also made some trysavers. Thing is Morgan believes and he has scored 7 in 5 and been ever present unless injured. Take him or Hall over Yeamon anyday.'"
7 in 11 you mean
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Welham might miss a few due to the jumping out of line but he has also made some trysavers. Thing is Morgan believes and he has scored 7 in 5 and been ever present unless injured. Take him or Hall over Yeamon anyday.'"
Yeaman's try scoring record is good but he also has his faults. None of them are what I would class as top quality centres but at least Yeaman has played international football.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"The point is that Whiting 's performances are consistently better than Hall's. If Hall could defend to the required standard do you think these threads would appear ? Of course they wouldn't. Instead there would be threads calling for his international inclusion. The fact that these threads appear and the international calls don't says far more than anything.'"
I really don't have a problem with people criticising Hall's defence. It's worthy of criticism. What grinds my gears is the exaggeration that goes on and the reluctance to notice any of the positives. And I'm not entirely convinced by the argument that players who are in better form should be forgiven any mistakes they make without question. Plus it hasn't just applied to better players this season.
No matter. I've had enough now and I'm off to finish my wine and watch Dr. Who.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Yeaman's try scoring record is good but he also has his faults. None of them are what I would class as top quality centres but at least Yeaman has played international football.'"
Do me a favour. Remember when? cos I dont!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Welham might miss a few due to the jumping out of line but he has also made some trysavers. Thing is Morgan believes and he has scored 7 in 5 and been ever present unless injured. Take him or Hall over Yeamon anyday.'"
Thats were our coaches differ! imo.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"7 in 11 you mean'"
7 in last 5 but 7 in 11 overall.
Still a shoe-in for your team. Satisfied?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I really don't have a problem with people criticising Hall's defence. It's worthy of criticism. What grinds my gears is the exaggeration that goes on and the reluctance to notice any of the positives. And I'm not entirely convinced by the argument that players who are in better form should be forgiven any mistakes they make without question. Plus it hasn't just applied to better players this season.
No matter. I've had enough now and I'm off to finish my wine and watch Dr. Who.
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Didn't forgive Whiting for his errors check my post in the MOM thread.
For me it's the same mistakes being made regular as clockwork that is the issue. If he can remove them from his game as I've said many times he will be a good SL centre. We can't wait forever though just ask Tommy Lee.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Do me a favour. Remember when? cos I dont!'"
One thing's for sure it's easier to remember Yeaman's internationals than Welham or Hall's.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Do me a favour. Remember when? cos I dont!'" The one time in donkeys years GB won in Sydney.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The one time in donkeys years GB won in Sydney.
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That long ago, thanks. Whens he's next one.
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| Quote ="Kosh"And I'm not entirely convinced by the argument that players who are in better form should be forgiven any mistakes they make without question. '"
I don't think that's an argument any has put forward. Every player makes mistakes, but some make far more than others. Of course the ones who make lots of mistakes will come in for more criticism than those who make far fewer. Particularly, as Staffs FC has pointed out, when certain players keep making the same mistakes over and over.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't think that's an argument any has put forward. Every player makes mistakes, but some make far more than others. Of course the ones who make lots of mistakes will come in for more criticism than those who make far fewer. Particularly, as Staffs FC has pointed out, [uwhen certain players keep making the same mistakes over and over[/u.'"
You would think coaches would address it.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"The confidence bashing he's had would leave most young players rocking in a corner.
Personally I hope Agar drives him out because I would love to see him alongside Welham at Rovers in the centres. Give them 2 seasons together and Morgan could have a fantastic centre pairing, pace is there just need some positional and tackling technics which comes with experience together and good coaching.
I will get lambasted but dont care.'"
My granny's faster than welham
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"You would think coaches would address it.'"
Thats why he's not improving. They don't know how too.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Is it really that stupid? When he's not taking conversions because if he misses them his confidence will go just shows he's too fragile mentally to make it.'"
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| this is a pointless and waste of time thread,,although he made mistakes last game his boot scored the team vital points that inevitably won the game not one mention of that is there,,we won didnt we just be thankful for that after the way the WHOLE team has played this month not just halls,,Rant over, es me right off the way some moaners are on here
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| Quote ="fc baldy"A coach will coach him though...someething which Agar clearly lacks......i will take the word of a actual player over a no-nowt like you.'"
ha ha from you thats a compliment mate ha ha your a star you are!!!!
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| Quote ="fc baldy"His defence wasnt shaky at all....as for that pass.....looked to me as though he was trying to pass it in one movement...people just want to see what they want with Hall'"
jesus and you say I no nowt, you are a special one indeed!!!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He needs to man up, not be wrapped in cotton wool.'"
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"rubbish and you know it, its obvious you have a genuine dislike for Craig
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He was the first on here to call him windy, shortly followed by that bag of gas who used to be know as Rock God.
They have attempted to back up their assertions by claiming that they don't need to have ever played the game to recognise a windy player.
Basically sums up the combined knowledge of the pair of them amounts to less than four fifths of fook all
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