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| Eastmond is awesome, potential world class..
Tom did us proud, 17 years old.. (I blame Blacklock & Agar )
Fantstic experience for the lad will make him stronger, well done lad you have done your country proud
Oh and well done Shaun you had a great game
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That would be interesting but it won't happen as there would be a real lack of experience, don't think either of them will be in the 17 next week.'"
Agreed but how do you get rid of inexperience? You could play for England against PNG or Wales or France and gain a little international experience. Not until you play against the Aussies or Kiwi's do you gain real experience. Play them and get rid of Smith.
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| could not believe smith took briscoe of,they scored 1 try on the outside of him because smith went wondering again,tommy could do nothing,as he was left with a 2 on 1,maguire and sinfield oh yes and a certain smith were terible in defence,smith should never of been playing as he is leaving to union,which will leave england searching for another centre,any true rugby fan will see tommy was made the scape goat,this kid did nothing wrong,chin up tommy all us fc fans think u did yourself proud,
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| Personally, I think Smith was kind in taking Briscoe off. He was getting mullered in that corner. I wouldn't have liked to have seen the lad's confidence get shattered and that's important IMO.
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| Quote ="B0NES"So we drop Mcguire ?'"
Smith and Briscoe were not the problem imo - it was McGuire - he was shocking. The Aussies waltzed through him on that right hand side and there was little or nothing Smith and Briscoe could do to rescue the situation. Going forward he was even worse. I'd rather see Paul Cooke out there than him - and I'm not joking.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Smith and Briscoe were not the problem imo - it was McGuire - he was shocking. The Aussies waltzed through him on that right hand side and there was little or nothing Smith and Briscoe could do to rescue the situation. Going forward he was even worse. I'd rather see Paul Cooke out there than him - and I'm not joking.'"
McGuire was England's worst player by some distance, and he was certainly at fault for those tries. Smith also shares the blame IMO for coming inside, leaving his winger stranded and facing multiple overlaps time and time again.
Wasn't that impressed with Peacock defending on that side either, although to be fair he's not a second rower and wouldn't be comfortable defending in that position.
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| so much for the world champs players being world class,simple mistakes cost simple tries.
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| Quote ="Bighead"dont just blame lee smith. there were 10 players stood in a huddle for the entire game, the wingers and full back were just left stood alone on the edges. whoever decided that against australia you only need to defend a third of the pitch is to blame for the barage of tries down the centre/ second row chanels'"
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| smith woz wrong in taking tom off as it woz his old players that made the mistakes,very poor decision
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| poor lad was made a scapegoat
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Personally, I think Smith was kind in taking Briscoe off. He was getting mullered in that corner. I wouldn't have liked to have seen the lad's confidence get shattered and that's important IMO.
I agree that Smith was useless, btw.
Spot on - keeping Briscoe's confidence intact was more important - his centre went missing when there was work to be done (like tackling Inglis)and didn't give him a decent pass in 40 minutes - he'll be back better for the experience
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| couldnt understand why england didnt play there normal game in the 1st half by putting up high balls or sticking a low ball through as they score plenty of tries week in week out in SL,instead they try the batter em up the middle which obviously didnt work for at least 3 repeat sets,i think a back to the norm should apply for the kiwi's and also use the wingers too. Just my opinion ov course
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| Although Australia was great in the first half we was making it easy for them by dropping the ball in our own half for most of the half.
Mcquire once again proved hes not good enough in internationals his kicking game was awful and Aussies was walking through him like he wasnt there.
Eastmond changed the game IMO his kicking game was great and when he ran at the Aussies they couldnt handle him and HAS to start next week
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| Quote ="jeronimo"poor lad was made a scapegoat'"
He certainly was and I can now seeing missing the Kiwi game. I just hope it doesnt hurt the young lads confidence too much !
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Smith seems to be hanging Briscoe out to dry, constantly coming in and leaving him with exposed.
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i dont think i have ever seen a game were the winger has played a full half without a centre!!!!!!! lee smith leaving tom to rot on the wing
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"He certainly was and I can now seeing missing the Kiwi game. I just hope it doesnt hurt the young lads confidence too much !'"
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger and I fully expect a fired up Tom Briscoe to prove a few doubters wrong next season. I have no doubts he will be an international player for years to come.
I agree Smith will not pick him against the Kiwis I would imagine Lee Smith will get wing spot (which he will do OK), but after the first half defensive no show he can count himself a lucky boy.
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| Be interested to see if Tom was injured/ill from what a previous poster has said about him throwing up before half time.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Be interested to see if Tom was injured/ill from what a previous poster has said about him throwing up before half time.'"
I think he was just [isick[/i as fook of being left stranded out on that wing !!!
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"I think he was just [isick[/i as fook of being left stranded out on that wing !!!'"
And he would have been justified. Three experienced Leeds players left him out to dry and on his debut against Australia as well.
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| Right decision was made showed by a much better second half performance in attack and defence.
I'm just glad it wasn't fox on that side you lot would have butchered him yet as it was one of your own he did nothing wrong
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Right decision was made showed by a much better second half performance in attack and defence.
I'm just glad it wasn't fox on that side you lot would have butchered him yet as it was one of your own he did nothing wrong'"
What he said
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| I think what a lot of people are forgetting (Especially that noob Zod from the dark side who has been constantly on his computer since the final whistle slating Tom)is that the Aussies strongest side is unfortunately the side Tom was on. They have a number of players who play for the same team and play with each other every day of the week. They have ripped apart team and team over the past few years on this side.
I and most people knew that this is where their most dangerous attacks would come from and I knew Tom was in for a hard afternoons work with him more than likely encountering some form of criticism from the Dobbins fans who have found it hard to swallow that Tom has pinched their players spot !!!
Anyone with an ounce of rugby league knowledge could see that yes there were huge gaps on Toms side for the Aussies to punch through but it was easy to see that Smith left him stranded on a good half a dozen times making these gaps.
Also the Aussies kick and chase in the first half was second to none and Toms kick returns was no worse than anyone else including Shaun Briscoe. It wasnt our teams fault the Aussies excelled in chasing us down and giving us no room at all. Its just another thing they are very good at !
Keep you chin in Tom you have been made a scape goat but just remember you was in that team for one reason and thats because you deserve to be in it !!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Right decision was made showed by a much better second half performance in attack and defence.
I'm just glad it wasn't fox on that side you lot would have butchered him yet as it was one of your own he did nothing wrong'"
2nd half - when the aussies switched off as the job was done.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"
I'm just glad it wasn't fox on that side you lot would have butchered him yet as it was one of your own he did nothing wrong'"
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Right decision was made showed by a much better second half performance in attack and defence.
I'm just glad it wasn't fox on that side you lot would have butchered him yet as it was one of your own he did nothing wrong'"
Yeah because replacing one player gives the other 12 on the pitch special powers pillock.
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