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| Quote ="The Key"Those who say its not bad or that bad because its been worse in the past, and there are clubs in a worse position than us are a joke.
First off, in the past have we had a top class ground, with regular 5 figure crowds, with one of the best community projects in UK sport, tons coming in through merch etc etc? Also, does it have to be the worst in our history for it to be a problem?
Secondly, why does it matter if other clubs have it worse? I couldnt care less who is better or worse, what matters to me is the club I support and at the moment its awful.
We have a board who make mistakes every season it seems, distances themselves from the fans (even slag them off I have heard in the past) and who accept mediocrity. We have a totally inept coaching staff. What type of coaching staff manages to prepare a team that gets knackered after one half, despite not having a game for 2 weeks prior? Its was 3 weeks since a game of high intensity. Our line was awful against Wire. I couldnt believe how flat it was. In defence, the line was lazy and slow which led to three tries on the overlap.
Then we have a set of players where alot of them are either crap, inconsistant or cba. We have few players who try their hearts out. A few of them are backs who barely get service, and in the forwards the liks of Lee and Burnett are young and arent superb players (although good and developing).
Then we have a youth system that year on year signs up talent from the Hull area and in the past couple of years, from beyond. They then get to reserve level and break into the first team and they become average SL players. Name me a top player that we have produced since Hornes debut 10 years ago? Not including Briscoe who hasnt had enough time to prove it yet, the only full level international (not including the crappy England A sides of the past) we have produced is Yeaman iirc. Thats shocking imo.
Boycotts are a waste of time unless, in our case, there were about 6k or 7k home fans at leats not turning up, with the majority making a protest outside the ground while the game is going on. Thats never going to happen. Theres all this talk about protests yet theres been ample opportunity to do this in the stands. Leeds is a perfect chance: large open terrace, Sky cameras etc. Yet I bet there wont be a single banner in sight, with the odd 'sack the board' chant.
Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
coulden't agree more, and I'm getting to a point where I don't want to attend our miserable (both on the field and in the stands) home games anymore
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| Quote ="The Key"Those who say its not bad or that bad because its been worse in the past, and there are clubs in a worse position than us are a joke.
First off, in the past have we had a top class ground, with regular 5 figure crowds, with one of the best community projects in UK sport, tons coming in through merch etc etc? Also, does it have to be the worst in our history for it to be a problem?
Secondly, why does it matter if other clubs have it worse? I couldnt care less who is better or worse, what matters to me is the club I support and at the moment its awful.
We have a board who make mistakes every season it seems, distances themselves from the fans (even slag them off I have heard in the past) and who accept mediocrity. We have a totally inept coaching staff. What type of coaching staff manages to prepare a team that gets knackered after one half, despite not having a game for 2 weeks prior? Its was 3 weeks since a game of high intensity. Our line was awful against Wire. I couldnt believe how flat it was. In defence, the line was lazy and slow which led to three tries on the overlap.
Then we have a set of players where alot of them are either crap, inconsistant or cba. We have few players who try their hearts out. A few of them are backs who barely get service, and in the forwards the liks of Lee and Burnett are young and arent superb players (although good and developing).
Then we have a youth system that year on year signs up talent from the Hull area and in the past couple of years, from beyond. They then get to reserve level and break into the first team and they become average SL players. Name me a top player that we have produced since Hornes debut 10 years ago? Not including Briscoe who hasnt had enough time to prove it yet, the only full level international (not including the crappy England A sides of the past) we have produced is Yeaman iirc. Thats shocking imo.
Boycotts are a waste of time unless, in our case, there were about 6k or 7k home fans at leats not turning up, with the majority making a protest outside the ground while the game is going on. Thats never going to happen. Theres all this talk about protests yet theres been ample opportunity to do this in the stands. Leeds is a perfect chance: large open terrace, Sky cameras etc. Yet I bet there wont be a single banner in sight, with the odd 'sack the board' chant.
Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
Nonsense pathetic, all because of the last paragraph.
Are you really that fickle? or should it read "when City go down i'll be back in the queue on sat morning on ferensway for the bus to Liverpool, Man Utd etc"
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| Quote ="The Key"Those who say its not bad or that bad because its been worse in the past, and there are clubs in a worse position than us are a joke.
First off, in the past have we had a top class ground, with regular 5 figure crowds, with one of the best community projects in UK sport, tons coming in through merch etc etc? Also, does it have to be the worst in our history for it to be a problem?
Secondly, why does it matter if other clubs have it worse? I couldnt care less who is better or worse, what matters to me is the club I support and at the moment its awful.
We have a board who make mistakes every season it seems, distances themselves from the fans (even slag them off I have heard in the past) and who accept mediocrity. We have a totally inept coaching staff. What type of coaching staff manages to prepare a team that gets knackered after one half, despite not having a game for 2 weeks prior? Its was 3 weeks since a game of high intensity. Our line was awful against Wire. I couldnt believe how flat it was. In defence, the line was lazy and slow which led to three tries on the overlap.
Then we have a set of players where alot of them are either crap, inconsistant or cba. We have few players who try their hearts out. A few of them are backs who barely get service, and in the forwards the liks of Lee and Burnett are young and arent superb players (although good and developing).
Then we have a youth system that year on year signs up talent from the Hull area and in the past couple of years, from beyond. They then get to reserve level and break into the first team and they become average SL players. Name me a top player that we have produced since Hornes debut 10 years ago? Not including Briscoe who hasnt had enough time to prove it yet, the only full level international (not including the crappy England A sides of the past) we have produced is Yeaman iirc. Thats shocking imo.
Boycotts are a waste of time unless, in our case, there were about 6k or 7k home fans at leats not turning up, with the majority making a protest outside the ground while the game is going on. Thats never going to happen. Theres all this talk about protests yet theres been ample opportunity to do this in the stands. Leeds is a perfect chance: large open terrace, Sky cameras etc. Yet I bet there wont be a single banner in sight, with the odd 'sack the board' chant.
Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
I see your true colours shining through. Fickle to say the least.
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| Quote ="The Key"Those who say its not bad or that bad because its been worse in the past, and there are clubs in a worse position than us are a joke.
First off, in the past have we had a top class ground, with regular 5 figure crowds, with one of the best community projects in UK sport, tons coming in through merch etc etc? Also, does it have to be the worst in our history for it to be a problem?
Secondly, why does it matter if other clubs have it worse? I couldnt care less who is better or worse, what matters to me is the club I support and at the moment its awful.
We have a board who make mistakes every season it seems, distances themselves from the fans (even slag them off I have heard in the past) and who accept mediocrity. We have a totally inept coaching staff. What type of coaching staff manages to prepare a team that gets knackered after one half, despite not having a game for 2 weeks prior? Its was 3 weeks since a game of high intensity. Our line was awful against Wire. I couldnt believe how flat it was. In defence, the line was lazy and slow which led to three tries on the overlap.
Then we have a set of players where alot of them are either crap, inconsistant or cba. We have few players who try their hearts out. A few of them are backs who barely get service, and in the forwards the liks of Lee and Burnett are young and arent superb players (although good and developing).
Then we have a youth system that year on year signs up talent from the Hull area and in the past couple of years, from beyond. They then get to reserve level and break into the first team and they become average SL players. Name me a top player that we have produced since Hornes debut 10 years ago? Not including Briscoe who hasnt had enough time to prove it yet, the only full level international (not including the crappy England A sides of the past) we have produced is Yeaman iirc. Thats shocking imo.
Boycotts are a waste of time unless, in our case, there were about 6k or 7k home fans at leats not turning up, with the majority making a protest outside the ground while the game is going on. Thats never going to happen. Theres all this talk about protests yet theres been ample opportunity to do this in the stands. Leeds is a perfect chance: large open terrace, Sky cameras etc. Yet I bet there wont be a single banner in sight, with the odd 'sack the board' chant.
Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
You'll be lucky
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Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
The very definition of a bandwagon supporter.
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| Quote ="Irregs #12"All sat in the stand
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FWIW if we had the team below, week in week out we would be top 2
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But we havnt been able to field anything like it, so to be still in the playoffs i think is not too bad. Wait and see what we do with these players back.'"
If you think that team is a top two team, you're more than deluded !!!!
OMFG !!!!
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| Quote ="Irregs #12"All sat in the stand
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FWIW if we had the team below, week in week out we would be top 2
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But we havnt been able to field anything like it, so to be still in the playoffs i think is not too bad. Wait and see what we do with these players back.'"
We'd be nowhere near the top 2 because the players would still be coached by the conservative (at best) sharp and agar. We'd still be soft in defence, unable to slow down the opposition PTB, unable to get a fast PTB ourselves, still playing a one man out forward orientated game (despite on of the smallest packs in SL), still have no kicking game, still have no direction and leadership on the field, still have forwards who jog in instead of charging in, still have no offloads, still have no players backing up the man with the ball, still be clueless in the opposition 20, still have no dummy runners etc etc
The list of our failings on the field is massive and it's to do with coaching and/or execution of the game plan. Yes, if teh players mentioned had been available we'd have won some of those tight matches but that wouldn't make us a good side. How many times have we scored 40+ points in a SL game in the last 3 years? How many times have saints, wigan, leeds, wire? The failings at the club are down to mediocre coaching and poor recruitment and retention. We need a top class coach who can come in and get rid of the average players, replace them with better players and get them playing to their potential
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| Loving the fact people are calling me a bandwagon supporter. The fact I went to City all the time when they were one of the worst professional teams in the country because I was way too young to go to Leeds by myself but loved football says something. Along with the fact I have seen many more Leeds United games since they have left the Premiership than when they were in it (surely I would have stopped liking them when I got relegated if I was a bandwagoner?), in fact I have been every season. The fact that I refuse to pay on average 25 quid a game for third tier football makes me a bandwagoner?
The fact I would stop going to rugby because barely anyone on the pitch seems to care anymore, and the club arent doing anything about it makes me a bandwagoner?
I would follow FC through thick and thin as long as the players gave as much effort as they could. I would support them if they were the worst team in the league, the worst team in the country even, if I felt the club were doing all they could to improve the squad.
Yeah, total bandwagoner me
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| Quote ="The Key"Loving the fact people are calling me a bandwagon supporter. The fact I went to City all the time when they were one of the worst professional teams in the country because I was way too young to go to Leeds by myself but loved football says something. Along with the fact I have seen many more Leeds United games since they have left the Premiership than when they were in it (surely I would have stopped liking them when I got relegated if I was a bandwagoner?), in fact I have been every season. The fact that I refuse to pay on average 25 quid a game for third tier football makes me a bandwagoner?
The fact I would stop going to rugby because barely anyone on the pitch seems to care anymore, and the club arent doing anything about it makes me a bandwagoner?
I would follow FC through thick and thin as long as the players gave as much effort as they could. I would support them if they were the worst team in the league, the worst team in the country even, if I felt the club were doing all they could to improve the squad.
Yeah, total bandwagoner me
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Bandwaggoner maybe not, fickle definitely.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Bandwaggoner maybe not, fickle definitely.'"
Go on then, tell me what makes me fickle, I could do with a laugh
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| Quote ="The Key"Go on then, tell me what makes me fickle, I could do with a laugh
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Would you "boycott" FC next season if we get to Old Trafford?
Nah, thought not.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Would you "boycott" FC next season if we get to Old Trafford?
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1) When did I say I would "boycott" anything
2) To get to Old Trafford you would actually need a team that trys. But if I stopped going to rugby I seriously doubt I would start going again
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| Quote ="The Key"But if I stopped going to rugby I seriously doubt I would start going again'"
Would you spend your spare time looking at your avatar instead?
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| Quote ="The Key"1) When did I say I would "boycott" anything
2) To get to Old Trafford you would actually need a team that trys. But if I stopped going to rugby I seriously doubt I would start going again'"
They do try, the problem is they are being forced to play in a way that they can't do too well.
And so this wouldn't be a temporary "boycott" it would be a stop going altogether? Forever?
Well until they get good again.
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| Quote ="The Key"I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me'"
How bad is that comment. Loyal as ever.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"How bad is that comment. Loyal as ever.'"
Be fair, I mean what's the chances of Leeds getting promoted?
He's basicly saying he'll never stop going to FC.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Would you spend your spare time looking at your avatar instead?
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Would rather look at her then that CLINT in yours!
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| Quote ="TKOAH"They do try, the problem is they are being forced to play in a way that they can't do too well.
And so this wouldn't be a temporary "boycott" it would be a stop going altogether? Forever?
Well until they get good again.
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Most barely try compared to how they should do. Its a joke how lazy some players are.
Also, boycotting and falling out of interest are two different things. A chimp would know that
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Be fair, I mean what's the chances of Leeds getting promoted?
He's basicly saying he'll never stop going to FC.'"
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"How bad is that comment. Loyal as ever.'"
Considering I have a very low income, dont live in Leeds and currently follow a rugby team that by the end of this season will have played in four different countries I think its hard to find an average rip off of £25 a ticket 23 times a season. I make sure I go watch them at least once every season though which for me is something
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| Quote ="The Key"Most barely try compared to how they should do. Its a joke how lazy some players are.
Also, boycotting and falling out of interest are two different things. A chimp would know that'"
Wow, never knew Wayne Bennett posted on here. Come on then enlighten us on how many years playing top level professional RL you have that gives you the right to say these players should try harder.
They are average players performing to the best of their ability week in and week out, the problem is some of them are doing this while carrying injuries because we don't have any other players to come in and others just simply aren't good enough to play at this level all the time. There was a thread on here not so long back that listed a full starting line up of players unavailable to us, now if those had played all season then maybe you'd have a point.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Wow, never knew Wayne Bennett posted on here. Come on then enlighten us on how many years playing top level professional RL you have that gives you the right to say these players should try harder.
They are average players performing to the best of their ability week in and week out, the problem is some of them are doing this while carrying injuries because we don't have any other players to come in and others just simply aren't good enough to play at this level all the time. There was a thread on here not so long back that listed a full starting line up of players unavailable to us, now if those had played all season then maybe you'd have a point.'"
You're as full of it as ever.
You don't need to be a SL player of coach to know that a good percentage of our players are not giving it 100%.
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