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| Quote ="TomA"No ... that's fine thanks. Doesn't it feel great when you make a voluntary donation! Much better than being forced to make one!'"
I'm away now to write a letter to the director of SARDA, telling them you forced me to donate.
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| Quote ="TomA"The posters who are complaining about me seem to forget that C in N were unaware that the donation was compulsory and were clear this was against their principles!'"
It was a quid.
Your embarrassing yourself and Rovers supporters in general.
Give it a rest will you.
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| Well said GML!
I was getting a bit sick of reading the same thing too!
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"I away now to write a letter to the director of SARDA, telling them you forced me to donate.'"
I bet, seeing THIS charity has principles, they will refund your money!!!!
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"It was a quid.
Your embarrassing yourself and Rovers supporters in general.
Give it a rest will you.'"
Unlike the donation its not compulsory (to read this thread)!!!
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| Quote ="TomA"As I said before, Children in Need were appalled that people had to make a compulsory donation to their cause .... they told me that charitable donations should be a matter of personal choice and this would be made clear in future link ups with organisations.
Andrea .... you neatly sidestepped my question ... did FC PASSHOLDERS pay the surcharge?
Anyway, out of FC (alleged) 15000 fans only 600 came to the derby when there were 2 points at stake. Out of our 8000, we only need to take 325 to have a better percentage for a meaningless match!!!! And that would be more than you took to Salford as well!'"
Tool. Fact.
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| Glad you agree with the post. After all it is a fact.
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| Its getting boring now.
simple,go or dont go,either way im sure they will be a good crowd turn out for horney.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Its getting boring now.
simple,go or dont go,either way im sure they will be a good crowd turn out for horney.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="TomA"Glad you agree with the post. After all it is a fact.'"
who is this poster? i've never seen him post before, hes a right angry boy though.
is this something to do with your mum giving your pocket money to the poppy appeal when you wanted a chocky bar when you were 5?
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| Justin said he'll be putting out a pretty much full strength side and will ask Briscoe and Fox to decide themselves if they play or not
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Justin said he'll be putting out a pretty much full strength side and will ask Briscoe and Fox to decide themselves if they play or not'"
Good stuff.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Justin said he'll be putting out a pretty much full strength side and will ask Briscoe and Fox to decide themselves if they play or not'"
Would imagine Briscoe would definitely want to play.
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| i read tickets are going on sale 2nd dec, do pass holders get priority regarding their seats or is it going to be a free for all??
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| Qn.
Are testemonials actually right anymore?
A player has been at a club for ten years, their average wage over that time has been £60k (for arguments sake), that is ten years at double what most of the fans earn (in fact, maybe 3 times, or more), so the player has earnt maybe 30 years worth of "normal income" in the 10 year period, the same fans then dig deep and give the player another £150k, the player then goes on to play another 5 years (maybe more) at the top end of the salary scale.
Is it the job of RL fans to make RL players 'turnover millionaires'?
Personally, I think not.
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| Quote ="Standee"Qn.
Are testemonials actually right anymore?
A player has been at a club for ten years, their average wage over that time has been £60k (for arguments sake), that is ten years at double what most of the fans earn (in fact, maybe 3 times, or more), so the player has earnt maybe 30 years worth of "normal income" in the 10 year period, the same fans then dig deep and give the player another £150k, the player then goes on to play another 5 years (maybe more) at the top end of the salary scale.
Is it the job of RL fans to make RL players 'turnover millionaires'?
Personally, I think not.'"
For me its not even about the money. If a player has shown the loyalty and ability to stay with the club for 10 years then I'm happy to show some gratitude by supporting testimonial events. Yes they earn a decent wage but they could be earning it elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"For me its not even about the money. If a player has shown the loyalty and ability to stay with the club for 10 years then I'm happy to show some gratitude by supporting testimonial events. Yes they earn a decent wage but they could be earning it elsewhere.'"
What do you get from your employer for 10 years service?
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| Quote ="Standee"What do you get from your employer for 10 years service?'"
What does Horney get from his employer?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"What does Horney get from his employer?'"
A testemonial, where the customers fork out.
(This is NOT about Richard in particular, it's about the events in general)
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| Quote ="Standee"A testemonial, where the customers fork out.
(This is NOT about Richard in particular, it's about the events in general)'"
A testimonial is a way for fans to voluntarily give something back to a player. They dont have to, its a personal choice and I wouldn't criticise anyone who chose not to. I have no problem with a player having the opportunity to arrange events for fans to show their appreciation for their loyalty and service when they could quite easily have gone elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"A testimonial is a way for fans to voluntarily give something back to a player. They dont have to, its a personal choice and I wouldn't criticise anyone who chose not to. I have no problem with a player having the opportunity to arrange events for fans to show their appreciation for their loyalty and service when they could quite easily have gone elsewhere.'"
I know what the "point" is, I am saying is it still relevant, which you obviously think it is.
I just think it is a throw back to the days when playing careers were short, earnings were low, and players played as well as doing a full time job.
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| Quote ="Standee"I know what the "point" is, I am saying is it still relevant, which you obviously think it is.
I just think it is a throw back to the days when playing careers were short, earnings were low, and players played as well as doing a full time job.'"
I'd say its relevant as long as fans are still willing to support them.
I do agree wages are generally high enough for players to have enough money to start a new career after rugby, but what incentive do players have to remain loyal to a club if we take away the testimonial?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'd say its relevant as long as fans are still willing to support them.
I do agree wages are generally high enough for players to have enough money to start a new career after rugby, but what incentive do players have to remain loyal to a club if we take away the testimonial?'"
They don't, the same as any other employee.
To be honest, I think they will come to an end soon anyway, as their tax status will change (as it should)
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| Quote ="Robbo4"A testimonial is a way for fans to voluntarily give something back to a player. They dont have to, its a personal choice and I wouldn't criticise anyone who chose not to. '"
Except the Rovers "planks" as you so kindly put it earlier in the thread?
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