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| Quote ="cod'ead"The groundsman's bill?
Who's mowing the lawn, Donald Duck?'"
That is twice in as many days you have exposed my posts
My point is he/she will be required to do more work relating to football than rugby if they play double the amount of games to us.
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| Almost 50 grand a match. Shame we didn't have the cash to build our own place like saints. I reckon they will be flying financially in a few years. Anyone know how much their new stadium is costing them? It looks superb
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| What exactly is the issue here?
Allam has simply chosen to put money into two sports clubs. Hull City, and to a far lesser extent Hull KR.
He is not obligated to put money into Hull FC or any other sports club, just as David Lloyd wasn't obligated to invest in Hull KR!
What is the problem?
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| Quote ="JMR"What exactly is the issue here?
Allam has simply chosen to put money into two sports clubs. Hull City, and to a far lesser extent Hull KR.
He is not obligated to put money into Hull FC or any other sports club, just as David Lloyd wasn't obligated to invest in Hull KR!
What is the problem?'"
Trolls generally
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| Quote ="JMR"What exactly is the issue here?
Allam has simply chosen to put money into two sports clubs. Hull City, and to a far lesser extent Hull KR.
He is not obligated to put money into Hull FC or any other sports club, just as David Lloyd wasn't obligated to invest in Hull KR!
What is the problem?'"
Our "problem" is, unlike you, we have read all of his comments on just how much assistance [uhe[/u gives Hull FC. Now if you're too thick to comprehend this or simply too dumb to appreciate the background, may I suggest you butt out of the conversation?
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| Quote ="JMR"What exactly is the issue here?
Allam has simply chosen to put money into two sports clubs. Hull City, and to a far lesser extent Hull KR.
He is not obligated to put money into Hull FC or any other sports club, just as David Lloyd wasn't obligated to invest in Hull KR!
What is the problem?'"
The fact Allam has said in the media that he has helped Hull FC by letting them use the facilities at the stadium is the main reason for Mrs B's post. Nothing to do with the fact he has not invested in us as a club. I for one don't want a penny of his money involved in Hull Fc.
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| Quote ="hullbg"The fact Allam has said in the media that he has helped Hull FC by letting them use the facilities at the stadium is the main reason for Mrs B's post. Nothing to do with the fact he has not invested in us as a club. I for one don't want a penny of his money involved in Hull Fc.'"
Correct. Allam has implied he has assisted Hull FC in effectively gifting us use of the KC. My point is that on a SMC income per ticket basis, it would seem that we are paying our way, rather then freeloading as implied. There is, I suppose, a related point that Mr Allam claims £1m+ is appropriate specifically to compensate Rovers for what he has gifted FC. Allam only took over in November, so I'd be interested in understanding how we've accrued benefits from him of this magnitude in 6 months. Either that, or it's another example of inconsistency of statement and sentiment from him. He can, naturally, do what he likes with his money if he wants to support other clubs, but I just think to state we're freeloading at the KC is probably untrue and unnecessarily emotive, and arguably conveniently so.
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| i believe we keep the first 7000 of the gate and anything after this is split 50/50 with SMC this deal was set up by shane richardson on the basis we would average 10,000 crowds but i also believe we get a pretty poor return on food and drinks but to pay£ 630.000 for a rugby team is to much and if mr allam does want to help HULL FC then he should look into reducing this cause SMC is making good money from us and city it does not cost 2million to run the stadium for FC and city on match days they also get good revenue from other souces like rents from offices and the pitches and indoor area
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| Quote ="wanye parkers wig"i believe we keep the first 7000 of the gate and anything after this is split 50/50 with SMC this deal was set up by shane richardson on the basis we would average 10,000 crowds but i also believe we get a pretty poor return on food and drinks but to pay£ 630.000 for a rugby team is to much and if mr allam does want to help HULL FC then he should look into reducing this cause SMC is making good money from us and city it does not cost 2million to run the stadium for FC and city on match days they also get good revenue from other souces like rents from offices and the pitches and indoor area'"
You believe wrong my friend. The original agreement was renegotiated a while back now.
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| I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
TBH that's a fair point but he is, I believe, chairman of the SMC (?) so effectively manages the stadium. Although him "gifting" us the use of the KC when he doesn't own it is a bit of a leap of faith. A bit like saying I "gift" him the use of my seat there because he once looked towards it. Its not [umy[/u seat in the same way it's not [uhis[/u stadium.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Almost 50 grand a match. Shame we didn't have the cash to build our own place like saints. I reckon they will be flying financially in a few years. Anyone know how much their new stadium is costing them? It looks superb'"
I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.'"
My thoughts also. I think that the deal with the Saints ground is a lease too, albeit a very long one.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.'"
He sounds like our very own Fidel Castro.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.'"
I assume by paying the SMC we also avoid the hefty Security and Policing bill that goes with matchdays?
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| Hey..... Lets just go back to The Boulev........errrrrm Eh, ah......i guess that anenue has been well and truly shafted LOL
BUT......The Idea of having something like Wire or Saints have......On that site would please this fan immensley. (it would have to be oval shaped though )
Now.....Has anyone got a spare 30 million quid ????
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.'"
Not exactly blessed with journalists the quality of the Watergate lot, or the guys that got Jonathan Atkin on perjury are we.
Having seen the stuff the HDM print realting to the work I do I'm pretty well of the opinon a bunch of monkeys mashing away at a typewriter would produce beter quality print. Bunch of clueless s the lot of them,
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
Did you not know? Allam has bought the council. He is now in negotiation to actually buy the city off the government. I believe that plans to rename it Sharm el Allam are proving problematic.
He has threatened the government that unless they give in, he is going to build his own city on a huge manmade island with sand from the Sahara, just off Tunstall.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I assume by paying the SMC we also avoid the hefty Security and Policing bill that goes with matchdays?'"
Yes, the 600K is an 'all in' deal, covers stewarding, ticket office staff, policing, stadium maintenance and cleaning...
I'm not convinced we'd be able to do it ourselves any cheaper.
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| I really dont trust him at all. He can give KR as much as he wants as long as he leaves FC alone. Theres something really fishy going on but as soon as our council see money their eyes light up and they wont turn it down.
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| Quote ="airlie"I really dont trust him at all. He can give KR as much as he wants as long as he leaves FC alone. Theres something really fishy going on but as soon as our council see money their eyes light up and they wont turn it down.'"
It might be a completely philanthropic gift to the city, respecting covenants, charters, listed buildings and appropriate guardianship of a community asset. It might be that there are no commercial gains to be made through the scheme. It may be that although he's talked of merging the two rugby clubs, he didn't [ureally[/u mean it. It may be that the request for some detailed plans and funding proposals requested at the council meeting 3 weeks ago was misunderstood. It may be that he has afforded FC benefits in the last 6 months of equal worth to a £1m loan/gift to Rovers. Any or all of these may be completely true. The point is that no one other than the council seem willing/able to examine the detail.
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| don't really see what a sporting village would bring to the city!
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. An olympic size swimming pool? is this actually needed when there is a centre of excellence in sheffield purposley built for aquatics, (plus there is albert ave baths round the corner from walton street!), seems a lot of facilities that we don't really need as we already have them!
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| Quote ="number 6"don't really see what a sporting village would bring to the city!
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. An olympic size swimming pool? is this actually needed when there is a centre of excellence in sheffield purposley built for aquatics, (plus there is albert ave baths round the corner from walton street!), seems a lot of facilities that we don't really need as we already have them!'"
You been in Albert ave baths? was in there on sun with my youngest....what a dump....much prefer Hatemprice but thats East Riding run and you can tell the difference..a lot cleaner.
As for Allam...the blokes a certifiable loon.He may have made his money in buisnes but,when it comes to sporting matters,he is more like Balderick..."i have a cunning plan".
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| Quote ="fc baldy"You been in Albert ave baths? was in there on sun with my youngest....what a dump....much prefer Hatemprice but thats East Riding run and you can tell the difference..a lot cleaner.
As for Allam...the blokes a certifiable loon.He may have made his money in buisnes but,when it comes to sporting matters,he is more like Balderick..."[ui have a cunning plan[/u".'"
to be fair, most of Baldricks were sensible compared to his.
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