A referendum on the future of the K.C. Stadium?
I suppose it would generate more interest than the Elections/Referendum this week as only two wards managed above 40% turnout to vote on something that will affect our lives for the next few years.

If it was at least 18k and had standing then yeah definitely! Won't happen though.

I'm worried.

The KC is the best thing that's happened to FC for decades. Hopefully, RLFC have as much say in this as AFC.

Even if fc agreed to depart the kc,i would imagine it would take a sizeable compensation fee,enough to build our own place.

We should vote yes though? Voting no, he decides to build a big stadium at Brantingham for City we are sole occupiers of the KC which will make it financially unviable. The I can only see things going down hill at the KC.

Vote yes he builds some extra stuff around the KC and keeps us in tennacy due to the extra revenue capacity may increase to 30k but no point in doing it any further should'nt alter things a great deal?

Or the council do a Jerry Maguire and say "Show me the money".

Allam craps himself and scuttles off back to his dreamworld.

God help me I am 70 I must be a right villian then

I've said before, elsewhere, that IMO the only reason the Allams rescued Hull City was to give themselves chance to own the KC and develop the land around there.

The publication of the HDM with them on the front, purporting to be holding plans up of a new stadium out at Melton, was laughable IMO and an attempt to put the possible sale in the minds of the council.

Hull City Council spent £47million building that stadium, it's less than ten years' old, and I bet they'd only get around a third of that in the sale.

I do worry when one of the first things a new incoming council leader says is "We'll let the people of Hull decide whether to sell the KC or not."

Sounds to me like he fancies running a council with some cash to play with.

I didn't state being 65 is a crime, it isn't, but I have direct experience of local councillors/councils, it's always the dinosaurs that are in charge of the worst performing ones, Hull long suffered under Labour and yet the people have let them back in again.

We'll see what the next 12 months bring, I hope I am wrong about it being bad for Hull and HCC's emplyee's.

Brady has not committed to anything, including a referendum. All he has done is give a politicians answer which makes no firm promises. Quite sensible in this case as he has only just been elected and is unlikely to have the full facts. Lets see what happens after he has seen what Allam really is after and who is expected to pay.

The referendum would be a difficult choice, I would instinctively vote no to the selling off of a valuable ratepayers asset, but if he is serious in his threat to build a new stadium at Melton we would be left with a white elephant. If he does move, an option might be to drop the upper tier of the West stand to reduce the capacity suitable for you to run as a rugby ground only.

Don't know why some get their knickers in a twist about the KC. If the council own it we'll be tenants. If the Allams own it we'll be tenants. What's the difference?

For those that think the Allams are bad guys answer me one question, will they want to lose a revenue stream if they own the stadium by alienating FC?

what doesnt add up tho is he wants everyone to pay 5 quid to get in. 35,000 people pay 5 quid or 25,000 people paying 25 quid? i know which id choose. And who is to say they will get 35,000 people going to watch in the championship? how is he going to repay the 100 million he wants to build all this with? I just dont trust the guy. Afterall he has already threatened to take hull city out of hull if he doesnt get his own way. So what will be next when he spits his dummy.

There's no chance of him getting planning permission for melton let alone raising the finance

Whilst the KC is in public ownership there is virtually no chance we will never be kicked out. If it's in private ownership then the situation changes dramatically

Paul Duffen did a good job and he didn't even own the place.

Indeed. Some people are very naive IMO

Did you hear his intervew on Humberside a couple of months back? The blokes a certifiable loon.

beware of greeks (or whatever) bearing gifts ?
he keeps saying he wants to give something back to the city ?
bull, he's a buisness man and he's seen a chance to make lots of money (good on him)
what worries me is we could end up with another David Lloyd saga where one man can control who can and cannot play at HIS ground ?
i'm only glad that he has not bought into Hull FC (yet)

I don't think for one minute that he would buy into Hull FC. I don't think theres enough money in RL to entice him. He'll stick to wendy ball were the money banded araound is outrageous.

Its a political fix for problem shame only a few a have seen through it



Now the Allams have to put up and come up with an offer or shut up and the feeling is the offer he has in mind is a lot less then what the council will except. All we have had for months is the media whore of city turning up the heat, all the Labour leadership has done is slap the pan on the gas and asked the Allams to stick something in it.

If it goes to a referendum it will be those who live in the city as this authority owns it , no one else and that will effectively cut the city vote due to many city supporters living out side the city. Add to that any money recieved from the sale can not be used to keep council taxes down or keep open schools, care home sor music schools. The money will have to be spent on capital projects, like the KC itself or new schools like the one planned over the Boulevard. In these austere times I can see the present government denying Hull council leave to spend any money on anything and the money will sit in banks alongside most of the money from council house sales.

There are so many if and buts with this and the Wail have latched on to the one thing they can as the labour group are not giving them any "exclusives" unlike Middlesborough Minns. This will turn out to be a bag of dog dirt for a few people and I can predict it will not be Steve Brady, sure he was watched KR and loves the game. He is not stupid and knows that the majority of the city is black and white, he is not going to alienate them three days into a new council is he .................

whether he is or not i still don't see an issue here. We'll have a tenancy agreement and if he does want to break it and kick us out he'll owe us compensation and we build our own stadium. I've got no issues with a cash injection into Hull City Council.

In either case we'd be owed compensation. The Allams will not want to kick FC out of the stadium. As i said, they will not want to lose a major revenue stream.

You're being naive. The amount we pay would be dwarfed by income for city if they get back in the premiership and there is no such thing as a watertight tenancy agreement

What are the scenarios here? I'm assuming that City and FC are the only clubs involved as Rovers are progressing their own ground.

1) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City only. FC left as sole tenants at KC with probably inaffordable costs.

2) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City and FC to share. KC stadium left as white elephant.

3) Allams buy KC stadium for City to use only. FC compensated but need to build own stadium.

4) Allams buy KC stadium for continued use by both clubs. FC presumably get shafted for a share of the extension costs on top of current SMC payments.

None of these look particularly attractive from our POV.