[uSpokesman Mike Joyce told BBC Look North: "In 2002 the council made available £43m for the KC Stadium [home of Hull KR's local rivals Hull FC.

"I'm thinking that somewhere down the line East Hull deserves that sort of sponsorship," he added. [/u


I thought the KC Stadium as Standee says was available to all three clubs initially and Rovers turned it down, prefering to stay and develop Craven Park, which is fair enough but they can't go bleating now that they've missed the boat because Craven Park isn't upto scratch and they have no money now to develop it.

Also if I remember rightly there were many locations around Hull being possible places for the KC Stadium, Kingswood/Sutton Fields being one of them, it begs the question that if the KC was built at Kingswood would they have turned it down or would they have realished it being in East Hull.

Just to be clear, and that rag the HDM can quote me on this.

"Both Hull FC and Hull City have to pay for the priveledge of using the KC. The KC is essentially a money making facility owned by the council that is actually for the benefit of the whole of the city. Why the feck should the tax payers handover money to Rovers to spend on their ground when the city of Hull gets nothing back?"

Im not sure if they even entered into meaningful negotiations/talks in the first place, I think they just had a "dummy spit", a bit like when they tried to block us starting again in the lower leagues.

As Wilf sayd, HCC need to save £80 (million!) over 3 years, so investing in Craven Park isn't really an option.

I don't believe they have 10,000 signatures either, probably 3,000 signatures and 7,000 crosses!

They got to the Guldhall and were offered the chance to come in with the scheme when HUll and City Committed to it. It was part of the Governments agreement to allow the Council to spend its capital programme on the Stadium that all proffessional teams had to be asked, AND that at last two had to agree.

There will be no new stadium in the East because a Council cannot build one to accomodate just one team, their best bet is for the Council to find a way to help them finance improvements via a some arms length company etc. The problem is that Rovers don't seem to be moving forward at all with Ground improvements and they will have to as the RL have said that in the next Franchise round they will and I quote, 'Look very carefully at clubs that are C grade and made promises about their stadiums that they have not kept'. I am sure they won't go, there are probably only one team able to come up, but they have to be careful to be seen to adhere to what they promised.

As a Rovers fan, I happen to agree with you. I refused the petition when it was stuck under my nose in the East Stand a few months ago for that very reason. The city is on the bones of its arris and priority should be given to schools and public services, not developing our ground. I also doubt they have got 10,000 signatures.

I'm not entirely sure if the club are supporting this, there has been little to no comment from them, but its misguided at best, and extremely naive to think they have a big pile of cash leftover from the KC sell off 10 years ago.

Having said that, I think there are a few on here that are also playing silly beggers if they think Rovers should have upped sticks and played on Anlaby Road, it would have killed the club in 2003 just as there were a few green shoots of recovery under Steve Linnane.

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Now you put it like that the headline could maybe read "Hull KR fans try and take money from local school kids and cancer patients?"

Your point about 2003, your average gate was around 1,500 so can you imagine the uproar if you played at KC and had to pay more than Hull FC for the privilege?

If drovers had decided to come in on the KC scheme it would have been built in the Leads road area (East). At the time a certain Paul Caddick was going to build them a new super stadium so they backed out. Unfortunately for Rovers Caddick had a change of heart and left them with what they have now. They have had enough money and favours from this council, blown the lot!!
As for the council giving F.C. a £43million investment, that has to be the joke of the century, IT'S A COMMUNAL STADIUM FOR EVERYONE TO USE (those who can afford). I'm sure there will be more than 10,000 against the council if they dare give KR anymore.

Spot on Martin - finances are too tight right now for unnecessary handouts. Is this really more important than essential council services? Perhaps the streetlights could be switched off in East Hull to pay for it

Then the robbing would be no fun for them

It was never going to get built on Leads Road at Apex Park, so you can put that one to bed straight away.

3 sites were mooted, Leads Road "AREA" was one and would have been favoured if like I said KR had come on board.

Paul Caddick pulled out of the stadium proposal due to Hull City Council his idea was very similar to that of David Lloyd

To be fair I agree that the council shouldn't be financing (part or in full) a new stadium. IF there are benefits for the council to fund the new north stand (offices, community development etc) then maybe that would be a goer but that is only if the council saw a payback for the outlay in terms of generated revenue.

The only bit of this thread I disagree with (apart from us playing in west hull) is the benefits the city of Hull get from the stadium and in particular the SMC. From an outsiders point of view I see the stadium as being treated as Hull City's stadium and the rest can dance to their tune. Hull FC have a leasing agreement and it is honoured in as such they get to play their games there. Everything else seems to be put to one side in lieu of the football.

When it was first opened we had concerts, international rugby etc taking place there, since city got into the prem league that all seemed to be put away and it became a prem league ground that had a tennant that just got blamed for killing the pitch.

The SMC is far to incestuous with HCFC for it to be a true community stadium.

Do you not think the basic problem is that the uptake for the concerts was so low, I doubt many of them made much of a profit, in fact I'd go so far to say they probably made a loss on most of them.

People are forgetting that the economy has changed in all respects since the KC was originally built, there is no emphasis on City so far as I can see.

But I can see attempts at petty point scoring from a rovers fan.

When the Council got the Shares from KC I was working with 2 well know Councillors both were red and white fans ..They told me at the time a new Stadium was going to be built for ALL 3 sporting teams ..I can tell posters that both couldn't believe that HKR turn the chance down ..At the time I through it was pie in the sky .Even now when I talk to Matty he just say Rover missed a great opportunity to be playing in a great Stadium

Thought the east stand extension was paid for and built, opened on time in July didnt it?

It may have been that there was a low uptake, I just think the stadium could be used more in terms of events management. I thought the turning down of the trinations event was a travesty and would have been a great event.

There is no petty points scoring intended and if anything this wasn't a pop at FC, more at the fact that nationally football takes the lead over everything in matters like these.

The tri-nations was ot turned down, I know it suits people to say it was, but the RFL were incredibly inflexible.

What band do you envisage at the KC, it's not big enough for the big hitters, and it's too big for the smaller events.

we turned it down because it was in west hull we are east hull and if you all get your facts right the amount invested in west hull hessle road, west park kc stadium and housing far out weigh the financial assistance given to east hull and hull kr. also according to the european social fund, east hull is the poorest estate in britain yet you all have a pop, yet you don't seem to mention the education suite at the kc nor it centres for woodcock st and hessle road area. but i guess that doesnt count!. East hull doesn't have a gemtec arena or a super stadium but tell you what let hull fc and west hull have all the european money and council money then that would be ok by you wont it.

Obviousley people will know much more than me,and please correctif I am incorrect, but when they sold the ground to Morrisons did they not get a good deal on the ground in the east, did they not also get the old school ground at a reduced price then sell this back to the council and now lease this.Have they also not had the fitness centre built for free.

I have to say they make me laugh they had all the money when they moved but did were did it go now at a time when their is no money they ask for money for 7000 fans against the 30000+ fans who go to the stadium

someone should have asked Max Gold and Co. about the money 15/20 years ago!

Still a touchy subject for some in the East.

Why should anything be given to Hull KR? As for other investment, Bransholme high school is currently being re-built, there's a new £14m health centre being built on goodhart road, 2 of my sons go to a brand new primary school, there is a new school being built on Preston road, the freedom centre, the new marfleet health centre, regeneration on the whole area of preston road area. All heppening now or have happened in the last few years. Plenty of investment in East Hull. The one main thing that doesn't help East Hull is the people that live in it (or at least 80% of them), they have no ambition and no motivation. Outside influences can help so much but the people need to change their mind sets.

They didn't sell it to Morrison I think it was Leo

The Front of Holderness Road Garage Was a listed Building and it got knock down during the night It was done saw Rovers could move.At the time it was proving WHO give the permission to knock it down