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| Think could be good as a back up option because apart from lms don't know many good props out of contract
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| Quote ="PAUL M"From memory, we were offering him around £30-35k and I think Rovers were offering £40-50k which is why he went. Gordon Gekko would be able to be more specific.'"
is he worth £40-50k?? personally i don't think so.i would keep one of dowes or radford(probably dowes-younger).that would leave us trying to sign let's say 2 props.i am sure there are better options than wheeldon around.
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| I'm still waiting for Andy Lynch to be announced, most on here claimed that was a done deal
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Think could be good as a back up option because apart from lms don't know many good props out of contract'"
if the board were prepared to pay a fee for tansey,then maybe they might be prepared to pay a fee for a prop
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"I'm still waiting for Andy Lynch to be announced, most on here claimed that was a done deal
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| Average prop who isnt big enough, wouldnt improve us one bit.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"I'm still waiting for Andy Lynch to be announced, most on here claimed that was a done deal
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It is, however the contract doesn't become effective until his 33rd birthday!!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"It is, however the contract doesn't become effective until his [u33rd birthday[/u!!'"
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| average prop, went to the dark side for more money, don't want him back
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"average prop, went to the dark side for more money, don't want him back'"
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| Quote ="Dave K."Average prop who isnt big enough, wouldnt improve us one bit.'"
Based on this seasons performances he would do just as good a job as Cusack, Radford and Dowes on a lot less money which would enable to strengthen in other areas. Orge and Moa can be the hard hitting props with Dowes and say LMS as the work horses with Wheeldon as back-up. A cheaper unit then we currently use and much better IMO.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Based on this seasons performances he would do just as good a job as Cusack, Radford and Dowes on a lot less money which would enable to strengthen in other areas. Orge and Moa can be the hard hitting props with Dowes and say LMS as the work horses with Wheeldon as back-up. A cheaper unit then we currently use and much better IMO.'"
do you seen any of the top sides going with props like that tho'?.ogre and moa,yes,but the top sides have excellent backups,not average.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"do you seen any of the top sides going with props like that tho'?.ogre and moa,yes,but the top sides have excellent backups,not average.'"
Such as?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Such as?'"
leeds,saints,wire,and even wigan.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"is he worth £40-50k?? personally i don't think so.i would keep one of dowes or radford(probably dowes-younger).that would leave us trying to sign let's say 2 props.i am sure there are better options than wheeldon around.'"
No he's not worth that kind of money.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"leeds,saints,wire,and even wigan.'"
Who is the 5th choice prop at those clubs please.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Who is the 5th choice prop at those clubs please.'"
off the top of my head
leeds have leulai,burgess,bailey,kirke,jjb,peacock
saints have fozzard,graham,hargreaves faasavalu
wigan fielden,coley,paleaasina,prescott,o'carroll
wire morley,carvell,wood,cooper
ogre and moa-yes.but what about backups?would you pick radford,dowes or wheeldon over these?
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"off the top of my head
leeds have leulai,burgess,bailey,kirke,jjb,peacock - =#FF0000JJB and Kirke are 2nd Rowers so thats 4
saints have fozzard,graham,hargreaves faasavalu - =#FF0000Thats 4
wigan fielden,coley,paleaasina,prescott,o'carroll - =#FF0000Prescott and O'carroll are nothing special
wire morley,carvell,wood,cooper - =#FF0000Thats 4 and cooper is nothing special
ogre and moa-yes.but what about backups?would you pick radford,dowes or wheeldon over these?'"
Ogre, Moa possibly LMS and then Dowes is a decent unit with Wheeldon as back up. Just who else could we realistically get that is British and an improvement without costing a lot more money?
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wigan prescott or o'carroll
wire ben harrison (although tends to play 13)
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Mind you look at hudds, they only have 3 props
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Ogre, Moa possibly LMS and then Dowes is a decent unit with Wheeldon as back up. Just who else could we realistically get that is British and an improvement without costing a lot more money?'"
jjb and kirke have played prop just as many times as 2nd row this year.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"jjb and kirke have played prop just as many times as 2nd row this year.'"
Sr's who can play as prop, same way we could use luaki/fitz/tickle i guess rather than keeping 5 first choicers
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"jjb and kirke have played prop just as many times as 2nd row this year.'"
Well going by that theory we can say Fitz and Hame are back up props as well so were actually really strong at prop
This thread was about the possibility of signing Wheeldon, my point is that as a 5th choice prop who else would be better? We already have 2 quota props signed up for next season so the replacements must be British and realistically available.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Sr's who can play as prop, same way we could use luaki/fitz/tickle i guess rather than keeping 5 first choicers'"
Maybe we should go with just the 4 props for next season with back-up from the 2nd Row and spend the money elsewhere?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Maybe we should go with just the 4 props for next season with back-up from the 2nd Row and spend the money elsewhere?'"
well,everyone keeps saying on here about lauaki been used as both a sr and a prop.leeds have done similiar,possibly due to injuries,but they have done it.4 props and hame could be an option?we are desperate for a 3/4 and a halfback,hopefully ones who have a bit of pace aswell.i would rather see the money go on them positions than waste £35-50k on a 5th choice prop.
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| I dont think you need 4 super star props. I have seen NRL teams use 2 quality ones and bring though youth players and/or cheaper alternatives. Im sure there are to bright young things somewhere who deserve a shot.
Tough position but if you are a decent size and you can hold onto a ball you can give it a good shot. That is what Dowes and Radford do but im sure there are 2 others out there who can do it on half the cash they are on.
They are still most likely on "International Player" sized wages.
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