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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.
The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.
I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman
I could go on but you get the idea.
I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'"
Thorman (not good enough confidence or no confidence) and Maloney (who cant make training) aside I agree with all of your points. Noble would not be my first choice and we need to do better than him but if we cant we need to do something. |
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Some Hull fans are naive at least
Noble only won things when he was spending £500,000 over the Cap.
Check his record on winning when Bulls were legal on wages !!!!
Even at Wigan he was involved in the most outrageous fiddle with Fielden and they barely escaped relegation.
NO NO NO NO
An Australian - Bellamy/Stuart/ Hasler for eg
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.
The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.
I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman
I could go on but you get the idea.
I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'"
Good post Mrs B, agree with all what you said, Maloney is for a reason though and rightly so |
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Problem on the coaching front is that no decent coach will come in and work within the constraints agar is happy to. The board need to get someone in and give them cart blanche (did you see the french connection there?) to change what they want to from methods, through staff, disciplinary procedures, training and development of young players, etc etc.
It's what hudds have done with brown and it's paying massive dividends. Won't happen at Hull though and one of the main reasons mcrae left
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Some Hull fans are naive at least
Noble only won things when he was spending £500,000 over the Cap.
Check his record on winning when Bulls were legal on wages !!!!
Even at Wigan he was involved in the most outrageous fiddle with Fielden and they barely escaped relegation.
NO NO NO NO
An Australian - Bellamy/Stuart/ Hasler for eg'"
The only naivity I can see on here is by those believing that any of the above named coaches would come anywhere near this outfit. If it's an Australian you want I here Rolf Harris ain't got much on at the moment. |
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| Quote ="Smiggs"The only naivity I can see on here is by those believing that any of the above named coaches would come anywhere near this outfit. If it's an Australian you want I here Rolf Harris ain't got much on at the moment.'"
I reckon his dicharidoo  (how do you spell that) would sound great around our stadium  |
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| Quote ="Smiggs"The only naivity I can see on here is by those believing that any of the above named coaches would come anywhere near this outfit. If it's an Australian you want I here Rolf Harris ain't got much on at the moment.'"
He would be better than the "two little boys" we have in charge at the moment |
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| Give Agar one more season and then take Justin off us when his contract expires |
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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"Thats like saying 'Better the Devil we DON'T know' is it not?
Noble has NEVER liked Hull, that was apparent for all to see when he was in charge of GB......He only picked Rich Horne out of peer pressure.....then stuck him on the wing with Senior (who was having a bad season) as his Centre.....Thus making him look average. Other than that....He never liked picking FC players. I actually found myself cheering for the Kiwis at the Test at the KC
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Why?
I dont rate him at all.'"
Emma Noble would be better than Agar |
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One of the excuses for this dismal season was that Agar hasn't had 'his own squad', and that is being rectified with the new signings. So, if you sack Agar, any new coach could then argue that they haven't got their own squad.
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| Quote ="shagnasty"Mr Rule, make thousands happy and bin a simply not good enough coach in Agar and replace him with Noble. These coaches like nobby are like rocking horse dung, we usually just end up with dung coaches. It would give every fc fan a lift in the off season and those fans debating weather to get a pass or not will more than likely get one without agar at the helm. James, you know it make sense.'"
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Some Hull fans are naive at least
Noble only won things when he was spending £500,000 over the Cap.
Check his record on winning when Bulls were legal on wages !!!!
Even at Wigan he was involved in the most outrageous fiddle with Fielden and they barely escaped relegation.
NO NO NO NO
An Australian - Bellamy/Stuart/ Hasler for eg'" I thought you said you were getting Justin |
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I thought the title of this was an invitation for Mr Rule to Join Hull Truck!!!!
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After a defeat, I used to be absolutely gutted for days. However now, I go to every game expecting us to get beat, so when we do, I arent really that bothered. I will renew my pass next year, but if next season is even slightly as bad as this one, then I won't be renewing next year. Our coaching staff are completely useless, and until we get rid, NOTHING will change. Sign all the players you like, but with this set of clowns in charge, we are never going to be back we were belong (top 4). It's about time we started to voice our opinions, starting friday!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.
The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.
I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman
I could go on but you get the idea.
I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'"
The dropping of Calderwood was bad enough, but that one decision had me livid last night. I cannot for life of me see the reasoning behind it! |
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| Quote ="airliebird58"The dropping of Calderwood was bad enough, but that one decision had me livid last night. I cannot for life of me see the reasoning behind it!'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.
The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.
I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman
I could go on but you get the idea.
I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'" Good post, the only bone of contention i have is that i'm getting past the stage where i give a f**k cos i expect us to play dross and get beat. |
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Fair points but i have never rated him personally....Bradford was a big team and just batterd teams with there pack and done a decent job at Wigan but hasnt done much there apart from being part of the biggest salary cap cheat going...also watch the lions on tour DVD when he was GB boss....he was bloody clueless.'"
Being good on the international scene in RL hardly makes you a great coach. Any living Aussie could have taken control of the Aussie team over the last 30 years and still beat us. |
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| Quote ="Whiting"KAF'"
ATEOD people were calling for Agar to be given a shot at the time, I was one of them and am big enought o admit I was wrong with that one. It happens to us all.
Now its being proved wrong everyone start on the board, I must be one of a few but I don't think we really have a board thats all that bad. I mean how many off the field records have we broke with them in charge ? |
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| Quote ="pmarrow"ATEOD people were calling for Agar to be given a shot at the time, I was one of them and am big enought o admit I was wrong with that one. It happens to us all.
Now its being proved wrong everyone start on the board, I must be one of a few but I don't think we really have a board thats all that bad. I mean how many off the field records have we broke with them in charge ?'"
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I never wanted Agar to get the job but I was happy to be proven wrong. He's had 1 and 1/2 seasons now to do that and all he's done is show me he's worse than I ever imagined.
There's nothing for me to be smug about though because he's running the club I love into the ground, and the board insist he's getting several more months to keep doing so.
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To go back to Mrs B's original post.
She has it spot on.
Especially the question of why so many injuries for the umpteeth season. Is it something to do with the training regime?
Also a change of captain wouldn't go amiss.
I have never been a fan of Radford, as a player or his low-profile approach to captaincy.
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(how do you spell that) would sound great around our stadium 
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