Exactly what we asked last week at Warrington when Horney was through....

Ian smith should be droped for that display. Notice he got a massive round of applause by the Leeds fans when he was warming up, bet they all payed him before the match.



Another thing that cost us was the desicion to let the ball bounce and go into touch from the kick off, which led to a leeds try.

Couldnt get there because of work today so had to settle for the radio. Half time the commentators were saying basically the ref had given Hull nothing and a lot of mystifying decisions to Leeds. Mentioned that 3 of their tries shouldnt have been given, when commenting in the second half and Hull had had a perfectly good try disallowed. Kept on and on about how poor our defence was but at the same time got nothing from the ref who let so much go for Leeds, forward passes head high, standing forward.
The station I was listening to?

RADIO LEEDS!

At least long enough for an advantage to be given, Manu barely took 2 steps before losing the ball, the ref should have gone back to the original incident which happened a couple of seconds earlier.

That was the shortest advantage i've ever seen in any game of RL.

This is truly awful logic. If the leeds tries hadn't stood the game would have followed a completley different timeline.

You can't simply say if this had happened then that would have happened and..............HULL WIN!

hull should have scored 10 tries and leeds only had 1 legitimate try.

If the leeds tryies had been disallowed as they should have been hull would have gone up the other end and scored.

Added to their other tries the score should have been 60-6 to hull.

We lost it due to an inability to tackle in the first half. Feck all to do with the ref (although he was shiite)

'Twas both IMO. The ref put us under pressure and then we failed to deal with it.

Absolutely spot on, the excuses some of our fellow fans come out with are an embarrasment to us all (however the ref was crap).

While strictly true, according to certain theories on the structure of reality there is a corner of the Multiverse where this did in fact happen.

Psst, he's a Saints fan. Don't let that stop you going off on one though.

Refs don't miss tackles and drop balls

If you truly believe that the officials never influence a result then you are barking mad.

And I've already said that our defensive frailties were a factor.

but they do miss foward passes and feet in touch

a mixture of poor refereeing and poor defence cost us the game in the first 20 minutes

As poor as the ref and his assistants were, they didn't cost us the game. Playing G.Horne against a big, mobile, pacey Centre 5 days after another big, mobile, pacey Centre ripped him apart cost us.

Maybe saying it cost us the game is a bit harsh but it certainly gave us a mountain to climb.

They do agreed, but they didn't today, the best team over 80mins won the game.

Of course they influence results, who do you think awards the tries?

My point is that we didn't lose that game because of anything the ref did, we lost because of an awful 1st half performance. If you don't accept that then you're barking mad

I wouldnt blame the ref either ... But the blind fooker running the touchline!!!

I've not said we lost because of the officials, I've said that they were a contributing factor. There is a difference.

So.....by my reckoning....given all the bad decisions that have cost you upteem games this season...you should really be top of the league by now

completely agree

people were far too eager to boo and shout 'forward' at everything today, completely ignoring how poor our defence was in the first half.

I heard that you would have definately won that game if you had scored more points than Leeds?

Then again you didnt so what ya gonna do? What about a petition, Bradford did that, maybe thats the answer?

Nah. The RFL would have stepped in and robbed us.