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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"But they have wonder coach Powell and they are further down the table than we are. I agree they don't get their trousers taken down as often as us but they do appear to be losing more often. Lets hope that continues on Friday.'"
He certainly gets the best out of his players,some of whom would be considered average by our supporters.
Cas are losing games but most are close not the blowouts we have endured.
It also isnt surprising they are losing some games given their injury list.I think they have eleven first team players currently out.
Our injury list of first team players is less.
If Cas get a couple of their injured forwards back and we dont get Sneyd and Kelly back then Cas will run away with the game with Watts man of the match and Taylor sent off for trying to take his head off
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| Ratu scored a great try for the Army today at Twickenham all over Sky news! He needs to be back in!
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| Quote ="bonaire"
If Cas get a couple of their injured forwards back and we dont get Sneyd and Kelly back then Cas will run away with the game with Watts man of the match and Taylor sent off for trying to take his head off'"
If Cas don't get a couple of their injured forwards back and we get Sneyd and Kelly back then we will run away with the game with Sneyd man of the match and Watts sent off for trying to take his head off.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"So it's okay for Hull to use injuries as an excuse but not Castleford, who are more deeply effected than us?
Powell I think is a better coach than Radford.
I think the post was more a point of mental resilience than anything else.'"
Firstly if memory serves me correctly, Powell was moved upstairs by Leeds as he was having no positive influence on the side, I can’t exactly remember what happened after his Leeds coaching position, think he went to rugby union and the championship.
He has improved Castleford of this there is no doubt, taking them to a hub cap winners team, then a losing grand final. He has Cas playing a super brand of footie, but as yet pot less.
Radders, not been coaching as long, and has taken the poison challis of Hull FC, he’s made two GF semi finals and was very unlucky in both not to reach the Holy Grail.
He’s reached two Challenge cup finals winning both these against Warrington and Wigan respectively.
The statistics tell a different story to your statement as to who is the better coach, as for injuries both teams have been decimated by them, as it stands we get trounced a lot more than we should, this is a weak link of our team, it’s not acceptable, and it’s bloody hard to take, but I will stick by Radders, He is a proven winner, unlike Powell who has won nowt.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Firstly if memory serves me correctly, Powell was moved upstairs by Leeds as he was having no positive influence on the side, I can’t exactly remember what happened after his Leeds coaching position, think he went to rugby union and the championship.
He has improved Castleford of this there is no doubt, taking them to a hub cap winners team, then a losing grand final. He has Cas playing a super brand of footie, but as yet pot less.
Radders, not been coaching as long, and has taken the poison challis of Hull FC, he’s made two GF semi finals and was very unlucky in both not to reach the Holy Grail.
He’s reached two Challenge cup finals winning both these against Warrington and Wigan respectively.
The statistics tell a different story to your statement as to who is the better coach, as for injuries both teams have been decimated by them, as it stands we get trounced a lot more than we should, this is a weak link of our team, it’s not acceptable, and it’s bloody hard to take, but I will stick by Radders, He is a proven winner, unlike Powell who has won nowt.'"
I have no doubt if Powell had had the money that has been made available to Radford by Pearson Castleford would have won more than just the league leaders shield.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I have no doubt if Powell had had the money that has been made available to Radford by Pearson Castleford would have won more than just the league leaders shield.'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"I have no doubt if Powell had had the money that has been made available to Radford by Pearson Castleford would have won more than just the league leaders shield.'"
You're right Bonaire, I was just about to type something similar myself.
Powell 3 finals and a LLS. He's been at Cas a year longer than Lee at Hull and took over Cas at the bottom of the league.
Assembled a team of mainly cast offs and plays an exciting attacking brand of rugby.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Firstly if memory serves me correctly, Powell was moved upstairs by Leeds as he was having no positive influence on the side, I can’t exactly remember what happened after his Leeds coaching position, think he went to rugby union and the championship.
He has improved Castleford of this there is no doubt, taking them to a hub cap winners team, then a losing grand final. He has Cas playing a super brand of footie, but as yet pot less.
Radders, not been coaching as long, and has taken the poison challis of Hull FC, he’s made two GF semi finals and was very unlucky in both not to reach the Holy Grail.
He’s reached two Challenge cup finals winning both these against Warrington and Wigan respectively.
The statistics tell a different story to your statement as to who is the better coach, as for injuries both teams have been decimated by them, as it stands we get trounced a lot more than we should, this is a weak link of our team, it’s not acceptable, and it’s bloody hard to take, but I will stick by Radders, He is a proven winner, unlike Powell who has won nowt.'"
True. At the same point in their careers that Powell was getting Leeds RU relegated in his first season in charge Radford had won back to back Challenge Cups.
I also think it's a fallacy that Radford inherited a very good side. We started 2014 with Crookes, Crooks, Miller, Tuson, Whiting, Arundel in our 1-17. Radford replaced these with Fonua, Tuimavave, Sneyd, Manu, Minichiello and Connor.
I also think it's untrue that we are a dull side to watch in terms of attack. With the personnel Radford has recruited in the pivots I actually think we overplay at times. Some of our centreplay this year with Carlos, Connor and Griffin has caused oppositions problems and been great to watch.
I agree with the view that Powell is a very good coach - so he should be 19 years of experience one way or another. But the reality is Radford's delivered more in 5 years, so this should not be dismissed so readily.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"True. At the same point in their careers that Powell was getting Leeds RU relegated in his first season in charge Radford had won back to back Challenge Cups.
I also think it's a fallacy that Radford inherited a very good side. We started 2014 with Crookes, Crooks, Miller, Tuson, Whiting, Arundel in our 1-17. Radford replaced these with Fonua, Tuimavave, Sneyd, Manu, Minichiello and Connor.
I also think it's untrue that we are a dull side to watch in terms of attack. With the personnel Radford has recruited in the pivots I actually think we overplay at times. Some of our centreplay this year with Carlos, Connor and Griffin has caused oppositions problems and been great to watch.
I agree with the view that Powell is a very good coach - so he should be 19 years of experience one way or another. But the reality is Radford's delivered more in 5 years, so this should not be dismissed so readily.'"
I don't get this extra money either, who has Radford bought? Sneyd is the only bug one that comes to mind, whilst Powell bought Hardaker and Watts. Both teams will be operating at full cap.
There is no doubt Powell is a good coach and has the knack of improving players, same could be said for Radford with the likes of Bowden, Griffin and Connor.
Two big concerns for Powell is his ability to win big games and the lack of development of young players, two of which Radford has done or is doing.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"True. At the same point in their careers that Powell was getting Leeds RU relegated in his first season in charge Radford had won back to back Challenge Cups.
I also think it's a fallacy that Radford inherited a very good side. We started 2014 with Crookes, Crooks, Miller, Tuson, Whiting, Arundel in our 1-17. Radford replaced these with Fonua, Tuimavave, Sneyd, Manu, Minichiello and Connor.
I also think it's untrue that we are a dull side to watch in terms of attack. With the personnel Radford has recruited in the pivots I actually think we overplay at times. Some of our centreplay this year with Carlos, Connor and Griffin has caused oppositions problems and been great to watch.
I agree with the view that Powell is a very good coach - so he should be 19 years of experience one way or another. But the reality is Radford's delivered more in 5 years, so this should not be dismissed so readily.'"
Radford signed Tuson
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"True. At the same point in their careers that Powell was getting Leeds RU relegated in his first season in charge Radford had won back to back Challenge Cups.
I also think it's a fallacy that Radford inherited a very good side. We started 2014 with Crookes, Crooks, Miller, Tuson, Whiting, Arundel in our 1-17. Radford replaced these with Fonua, Tuimavave, Sneyd, Manu, Minichiello and Connor.
I also think it's untrue that we are a dull side to watch in terms of attack. With the personnel Radford has recruited in the pivots I actually think we overplay at times. Some of our centreplay this year with Carlos, Connor and Griffin has caused oppositions problems and been great to watch.
I agree with the view that Powell is a very good coach - so he should be 19 years of experience one way or another. But the reality is Radford's delivered more in 5 years, so this should not be dismissed so readily.'"
Stay on topic mrs b , what’s this got to do with the Catalan game . But since we are of topic, did anyone see the quality of the st George v parramatta game , wow , now that is proper rugby league , I miss it
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| TBF it was Bombed Out and bonaire navigating the conversation towards Powell, I was just responding with some different perspective.
Stats don't make great reading all round but another 100m+ shift from Josh Griffin.
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| eels v st George was a great advert for rl,superb game,some great tries and a 30000 plus crowd,with both sets of fans sat amongst each.no crowd trouble,no segregation,no bottles throw.uk sport take note.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"eels v st George was a great advert for rl,superb game,some great tries and a 30000 plus crowd,with both sets of fans sat amongst each.no crowd trouble,no segregation,no bottles throw.uk sport take note.'"
Same with Toronto. Basically every home game is a beer festival yet there doesn't appear to be any bother. No heads screaming abuse, no aggression or fighting in the stands, nobody spoiling the occasion for others.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"eels v st George was a great advert for rl,superb game,some great tries and a 30000 plus crowd,with both sets of fans sat amongst each.no crowd trouble,no segregation,no bottles throw.uk sport take note.'"
If only we could go to the Kcom expecting to see games like this. The best I've seen in a long time.
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| yes,the kcom stadium rarely delivers exciting games with great atmosphere.few away supporters bother coming,most away teams do come pumped up,unfortunatly hull players dont seem to like playing at home for whatever reason.after 7 home games this season the only times that hull have looked interested have been 20 mins against leeds and the second half against rovers.the rest has been average to rubbish
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| I blame the coach lol
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Same with Toronto. Basically every home game is a beer festival yet there doesn't appear to be any bother. No heads screaming abuse, no aggression or fighting in the stands, nobody spoiling the occasion for others.'"
Yeah,let's hope it doesn't catch on.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Was 3/1 just after dinner yesterday when squads was announced. Don’t like betting against Hull but was too good to turn down.'"
I didn't think we'd win but couldn't compromise myself by backing Catalans.
I'd feel treacherous.
Stupid but true.
See the bookies have us as early favourites to beat Cas. Hope their right this time.
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| after the latest debacle last Friday,are the club and the players taking fans for granted?we keep hearing that the players dont like playing at home,ive watched hull play at the boulevard from the mid 60s and there were some poor fc teams inthose years and some great ones,but I never heard any player say he didn't like playing at home.anyone who has bought a season pass in the last 3 years has been short changed.even in 2017 when we retained the cup,there were some shocking home perfornaces.same with pearson,did he look at how many season passes were flying out the door in the close season and think why buy a marquee player and really strengthen if we are all buying passes anyway.ive been a season pass holder for nearly 30 years,but I find myself thinking shall I pick and choose my games next season and not bother with a pass.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"after the latest debacle last Friday,are the club and the players taking fans for granted?we keep hearing that the players dont like playing at home,ive watched hull play at the boulevard from the mid 60s and there were some poor fc teams inthose years and some great ones,but I never heard any player say he didn't like playing at home.anyone who has bought a season pass in the last 3 years has been short changed.even in 2017 when we retained the cup,there were some shocking home perfornaces.same with pearson,did he look at how many season passes were flying out the door in the close season and think why buy a marquee player and really strengthen if we are all buying passes anyway.ive been a season pass holder for nearly 30 years,but I find myself thinking shall I pick and choose my games next season and not bother with a pass.'"
If you have been a passholder for 30 years you will have seen much, much worst times than this. OK the last two seasons haven't been grest, but we haven't nearly gone bust or faced relegation.
There has been some bad performances, but also lots of positives at the club at the moment. I think we are only 3/4 players off competing again, which we couldn't say that it the past.
it's hard to be consistent these days due to injuries and the salary cap.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If you have been a passholder for 30 years you will have seen much, much worst times than this. OK the last two seasons haven't been grest, but we haven't nearly gone bust or faced relegation.
There has been some bad performances, but also lots of positives at the club at the moment. I think we are only 3/4 players off competing again, which we couldn't say that it the past.
it's hard to be consistent these days due to injuries and the salary cap.'"
Injuries and salary cap don't have anything to with effort and intensity, we all know we have injury problems, but that doesn't excuse effort and intensity, both cost nothing
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| yes,ive seen some rubbish over the years and I keep coming back,but this team has talent ,but for some reason cant be bothered in some games.both London broncos and rovers are both inferior to us,but neither side has had 60 plus put by them so far this season.we ve had 2 60 plus defeats against us.its not good enough.
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