And 2/3rds of the way through his tenure he's taken us from GF semi finalists to failing to make the 6 twice.

Fair point. I agree about a clean break being needed. Lasty might have done okay, but was probably too closely linked to Radford.

Still think BH would be better suited as a DOR, putting systems and pathways in place , but leaving the coaching to someone else.

Finances wouldn’t allow for that anyway. It’s not the defeats, it’s the manner of them. Really don’t know what can turn this around.

Oh dear

You’d think if he’s here three years, and not made the play offs in that time, he’s coached his way out of a job.

That would be my guess too

8th last season.

Currently 9th this season.

Not good enough. We need a change now.

And I think most fans now agree, paying him off a year early costs money but so does failing to sell passes because the fans have had enough.

100%

Yet we have given this guy a three year contract.A squad man who shouldnt be in our first seventeen yet Hodgson seems to think he will be a starting centre.
Even the guy on the radio after the match said he had no leg speed for a centre

Get on the phone to Wane asap and give him whatever he wants

That was Alan Hunte in reference to him playing 6....

still good enough for some on here.
They are still on fantasy Island with Adam Pearson

But surely even you must admit it's a upgrade on Griffin? Good solid all round pro right age I think signing him and his all round value means we can get rid of smith and lovodua and use the quota places on a couple of big forwards

He was talking about Sutcliffe as a centre nothing to do about playing 6.
The reference was that his lack of leg speed would always be a detriment to his attacking game

Where's the quotes where anybody has said it's good enough after today?

He really wasn't. He said his lack of leg speed makes him less of a threat at 6, but is a good centre.

Alan Carr would be an upgrade on Griffin but if we signed him there would be some on here who would find a positive in the signing.
Signing Sutcliffe another utility play on a three year deal who the coach at Leeds is quite happy to release does not show any real intent to make up ground on some of the top clubs.
If you buy average you usually get what you pay for.

So because he is slow we play him at centre?

Never said i included you on fantasy island
let me have a rethink

But unfortunately we are in the position to sign a top player from saints Wigan catalan etc. You wanted us to sign simm but he can't even get into a injury hit saints team so that shows how average he is

Sorry aren't in a position

Take it up with Alan Hunte.

That’s the problem, he’s had nearly 2 years in the role to have implemented some improvements in the way we play but in all honesty I fail to see anything as we still make the same poor decision, fail to respect the ball, don’t seem to have the mind set to play out a set of 6 etc. it’s just sane poop different season and the same old tired rhetoric of fans need to be patient blah blah blah. The manner of the defeats is worse than it ever has been and the continuation of doing the same things each week that just don’t and haven’t worked as though Hodgson thinks somehow things will be different is just fool hardy.

It’s a bad sign when even after another drumming at home and I’m completely numb to it. Probably the worst 50 minutes of rugby I’ve watched in my circa near 20 years of supporting this club.

It was a promising start, early try, genuinely looked like we had Saints rattled. But as always, this mentality weak bunch falls apart at the first sign of adversity. Sure it’s far from ideal losing your FB, but come on, that collapse and the total disjointed mess we had to endure was nothing short of amateurish.

Feel like a broken record, but what other club in SL would have two hookers on their bench and continue to flog their veteran 9 down the middle? On one of the hottest days of the year against the reigning champs of all sides, Only us. It sets the tone for how weak, slow and to be painfully honest embarrassing our middles have been in recent weeks. Forwards making yards for fun. Grabbing at shirts cos the opposition is simply fresher and fitter then us. It’s not rocket science, use your bench more effectively Brett Hodgson.

More on Brett, I appreciate that emotions will be high after FT, but to single out individual players and throwing them under the bus the way he did is a very risky stance to take. There seems to be no acknowledgement of error on his behalf. There’s not many teams that would have 3 severe hammerings at home on the bounce and would be able to walk away from them without being under pressure.

If the club is serious about improving crowds and pass sales then it has to win the last four games, the three at home at the very least. Sadly I wouldn’t be shocked if we didn’t win another game this season.

Take your time.